Posted on 07/13/2008 8:40:29 AM PDT by MindBender26
The Obama Citizenship Question - - - Have We Been Suckered In By Hillary And The DNC?
Conservatives have been arguing about Obama possibly not being constitutionally qualified to be President. Some claim he is not a natural born citizen. Besides distracting us from the real issue of teaching America what a disaster an Obama presidency would be, we have been focused on this issue.
But stop and think for a moment. Even if we are right, have we been doing Hillarys work for her?
Step back for a moment and consider some Realpolitics.
Remember, we Conservatives do not elect the President. Neither do the hard line Dems. Regardless of who is the candidate, about 40% of the public will vote D, and 40% will vote R.
The deciding vote is always cast by that 20% in the middle, the swing voters.
Often female, they are usually late deciders and most importantly, make up their minds on Maslow type issues; Is my world safe? Is my country safe? Is my family economically, militarily and morally safe and safer with the Republican or Democrat candidate?
Also remember that the Dems have never been a majority party. They often put together winning coalitions of multiple minorities, but they dont begin with a majority.
Now, move back to July 2007, a year ago. You are an RNC leader. Who do you want to face?
A very savvy, popular female senator, especially popular with the swing voters, or an unknown, inexperienced, untested, Muslim, Black first term senator?
She would get these minority Dem voters in the GENERAL Election (the only one that really counts.)
1) Traditional blue collar Dem-Labor voters (the ones Reagan took away.) 2) The Fuzzy Left vote 3) The Radical vote 4) The Black vote (Blacks would vote for Charles Manson if he were running on the Dem ticket) 5) The Youth vote (although they talk a lot, they dont vote much in Generals) 6) The Gay-Lesbian vote (she would have that secret vote VERY strongly, and get bazillions of dollars from them.) 7) The Soccer Mom vote 8) The hurt, downtrodden female vote
In the GENERAL, our Islamic Black Senator would get
1) The Fuzzy Left vote 2) The Radical vote 3) The Black vote 4) The Youth vote
More importantly, all her baggage is known and already factored in to her favorability ratings. On the other hand, most of his baggage is not and they are Maslow type or bread and butter issue negatives.
His negatives are still ready to be used against him. The serious coverage of Tony Rezko not even started. The Rev. Wright is still circling the field of battle, ready to drop huge electoral fear bombs on those swing voters. The Senators negatives scare us. His negatives are new, and there are still many yet to come to the public attention.
Sure he makes a great speech but that wears out. It would certainly wear out long before a General. His victory in the Primaries was dependent in a large part on the anti-Hillary vote, not on the pro-Obama vote.
Even the old pros at the DNC quietly know this. Their current line about Obamas popularity is Up fast, down fast just like Bill Clintons weenie
But remember, you are a Republican leader trying to get that MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SWING VOTER, (not the FReeper types.)
Now, move forward Mr. Leader, its 2008. We got our wish. The Dems did it to themselves again. This is 1972 all over again. The far-left Dem primary voters have chosen a far-left candidate who appeals to the far-left Dems, the ones who vote in the Primaries, but in the long run he has little real long-term critical appeal anywhere else.
Now, how are you going to beat him in the General?
You are going to wrap him in the Reverend Wright and his hate of White people. Every time they breathe, they will think of Wright. Far-left Dems may have "forgiven and forgotten Rev. Wright but were going to ensure MOR voters NEVER forget him and his hate.
Speaking about hate, we havent even started with ACORN and Obamas work for them yet. How about Black Reparations. How about his ongoing association with murdering terrorists like Bill Ayers, American terrorists who wish they could kill more Americans all over again.
How about Military experience? Can Obama even spell "G.I.? Taxes, terrorism, taxes, crime, taxes, government-directed healthcare, radical Supreme Court judges, did I mention higher, crippling taxes . over and over and over again.
Untested, inexperienced, a tax and spend, radical, Black Muslim oh, Im sorry, did I say Black Muslim Of course, I meant Islamic Black Democrat. Im so sorry . (blush)!!!
And we repeat it over and over and over again
In the GENERAL, he is so much easier to beat than the Hildabeast . and thank goodness she lost the Primaries.
There is no way she and Bill could pull some political shenanigans and get the nomination now without rioting in the streets (Chicago 1968 all over again, which guaranteed the Nixon win.)
But wait If somehow Obama is found to be legally disqualified, who else could they turn to? The Hildabeast of course! Now she is tanned, rested and ready she never officially dropped out of the race. And it wouldnt be her who got poor Mr. Obama thrown out of the race. It would be those nasty Republicans and Conservatives!!!
All of a sudden, Obama wouldnt be the Messiah anymore, but Hillary would be Our Lady of Virginal Wonderfulness
Think of it like a Super Bowl. The primaries were the regular season and the playoffs to decide who pays in the Big Game. The Big Game (the General election, the only one that really counts) hasnt started yet! The MOR voters are on summer break. They wont get really interested in politics until mid-September. As FReepers, were interested in politics and elections all the time, because we are interested in the long term future of our country,,, but not the Sheeple. For the Sheeple, the primaries are over and its summertime, kids at the beach or pool, days off, etc.
The only reason there is any attention is because the media is driving it for ratings, because with Iraq settling down, they dont have anything else to talk about, and politics drives ratings.
But in the world of Realpolitics, in the world of political reality, in the area of what will matter a year from now, were still in the pre-game show!
The points dont count yet.
So, lay off the citizenship thing, at least for now. Lets make sure Obama gets the nomination, then beat him during the General, on a hundred real issues!
Lets not get him out now while they can still run in a substitute. Keep the citizenship thing in our quiver, so if by some strange reason Obama won, we can use it then, when it counts, on the offhand chance it is real.
Stop doing Hillarys work for her. Lets not let this citizenship thing become Operation Chaos running three month too long. If he goes out now, we get Hillary! We may hate her, but the Sheeple do not!
Dont do Hillary and Bills Rovearian work for them, We want Obama
on their side, as their public face, image and candidate in the General!
The date of her getting a SS was not in questions as when I was born in 1959 my folks get my SS for Brother and Sister a couple of years later and our SS#’s are in sequence. My comment was she evidently got if for perhaps the purpose of getting a passport. I am not sure what was required for a passport in 1959-1960
Kennedy should have produced the papers from his first marriage.
Eisenhower should have told us about Kay and Mamie's drinking.
W should have told us about the DWI
Clinton should have told us about his long trips behind the Iron Curtain...
The list is endless.
“You are kidding, are you not? You are willing to participate in something that benefits the Clintons?”
McCain getting elected this year benefits the Clintons, as Hillary can run in 2012. Do you intend to vote for Barack Obama?
If not, you should probably tone down on the hyperbole.
When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.
If not nominated, Hillary is finished. She has no desire to be 1 of 100 in a Big Boys Club, most of whom actively dislike her.
She can't run for Gov of NY against a sitting Black, Blind, Moral Reprobate Dem Gov.
If she is not nominated, she will resign shortly after the inauguration. She will retire her own foundation, $10,000,000 a year in speeches. $5,000,000 from Boards, another $5,000,000 as an of-counsel rainmaker for w Wall Street / DC law firm.
She can give up any pretense of a marriage to Bill, be seen with her lovers, keep whatever profile she wants, travel and more.
When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras.
If not nominated, Hillary is finished. She has no desire to be 1 of 100 in a Big Boys Club, most of whom actively dislike her.
She can't run for Gov of NY against a sitting Black, Blind, Moral Reprobate Dem Gov.
If she is not nominated, she will resign shortly after the inauguration. She will retire her own foundation, $10,000,000 a year in speeches. $5,000,000 from Boards, another $5,000,000 as an of-counsel rainmaker for w Wall Street / DC law firm.
She can give up any pretense of a marriage to Bill, be seen with her lovers, keep whatever profile she wants, travel and more.
NOT BE A MEDIA TARGET, and more
All your points may be right... but still, let’s ensure he, not the Hildabeast is the nominee.
GOP hasn’t shown to be for anyone or anything but themselves.
It is not the home of small government conservatism.
Sucked in...a fake Birth Certificate did it. When in fact, there is probably a real one...that’s why NO one is the least bit worried about it. And one day the real one will be offered for all to see. Checkmate...
I think that the senator bears more than a passing resemblance to his mother. Actually she looks as though she could be pregnant in this picture.
You are kidding, are you not? You are willing to participate in something that benefits the Clintons?
In sex and politics, timing is everything.
It's like the Bush DWI; drop it at the right time and we move the election 10-16 points.
Push it now, we get Super Operation Chaos,,, that goes way too far, and Hillary gets the nomination!
The recurring demand for an "original" falls on deaf ears because almost no state can provide such a document anymore.
I may well try to get Hawaii to provide me a certification of the current records on the basis that Obama is one of my first cousins (albeit at 7 removes, but a first cousin nonetheless).
You know the more history of the internet unfolds, the more I see that a man like our founder Jim Robinson -- who rarely interjects himself into a discussion, compares to many the blogs who lack that humble character of leadership.
It would have been easy for the Robinsons' to change the name to "JimRob's Republic". He is a Cincinnatus. He's a bit of George Washington, himself, for that humility.
Never forget, Freepers, that we came before those blogs, and among us, some clearly great people RIP, who in their life while on FR were no more or less a fellow among all Freepers.
We all, and each, a part of history -- of America and Liberty. And G-d willing, may good Freepers continue to work earnestly and ably, openly and honestly with malice towards none, in brotherhood and friendship, for America, the bulwark and shining cup of Liberty to the world.
“You know the more history of the internet unfolds, the more I see that a man like our founder Jim Robinson — who rarely interjects himself into a discussion, compares to many the blogs who lack that humble character of leadership.
It would have been easy for the Robinsons’ to change the name to “JimRob’s Republic”. He is a Cincinnatus. He’s a bit of George Washington, himself, for that humility.”
Hear, hear! But those are the values he loves, aren’t they? What could be more fitting as he does more than his bit for this generation of the great national experiment.
There will be no riots of joy. Your property and the liberty and opportunity of your children will be transferred lawfully.
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sorry for the use of the word “gold standard”.
I never post at littlegreenfootballs myself.
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