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Zondervan faces $60M federal lawsuit over Bible, homosexuality
WOOD TV Grand Rapids, MI. ^ | July 8, 2008 10:58 PM | Tony Tagliavia

Posted on 07/08/2008 8:27:57 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan

Christian publisher Zondervan is facing a $60 million federal lawsuit filed by a man who claims he and other homosexuals have suffered based on what the suit claims is a misinterpretation of the Bible.


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To: JohnD9207
One would have to be mental unstable to take it in the arse by another man, then try to have a healthy relationship after.
21 posted on 07/08/2008 8:48:37 PM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: roses of sharon

The guy is bat sh!!!t nutz.


22 posted on 07/08/2008 8:51:45 PM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: Army Air Corps

From Thayers Greek Lexicon:

“one who lies with a male as with a female, a sodomite”

Some various translations:

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
King James Version 1611, 1769

NKJV - 1Cr 6:9 - Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,
Footnote:
That is, catamites
New King James Version © 1982 Thomas Nelson

NLT - 1Cr 6:9 - Don’t you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, who are idol worshipers, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals,
New Living Translation © 1996 Tyndale Charitable Trust

NIV - 1Cr 6:9 - Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

New International Version © 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society

ESV - 1Cr 6:9 - Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

Footnote:
a Or wrongdoers
b The two Greek terms translated by this phrase refer to the passive and active partners in consensual homosexual acts

The Holy Bible, English Standard Version © 2001 Crossway Bibles

RVR - 1Cr 6:9 - ¿No sabéis que los injustos no heredarán el reino de Dios? No erréis; ni los fornicarios, ni los idólatras, ni los adúlteros, ni los afeminados, ni los que se echan con varones,

Reina-Valera copyright © 1960 Sociedades Bíblicas en América Latina; copyright © renewed 1988 United Bible Societies.

NASB - 1Cr 6:9 - Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation

RSV - 1Cr 6:9 - Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts,
Revised Standard Version © 1947, 1952.

ASV - 1Cr 6:9 - Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
American Standard Version 1901 Info

Young - 1Cr 6:9 - have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor sodomites,
Robert Young Literal Translation 1862, 1887, 1898 Info

Darby - 1Cr 6:9 - Do ye not know that unrighteous [persons] shall not inherit [the] kingdom of God? Do not err: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who make women of themselves, nor who abuse themselves with men,
J.N.Darby Translation 1890 Info

Webster - 1Cr 6:9 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Noah Webster Version 1833 Info

HNV - 1Cr 6:9 - Or don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals,
Hebrew Names Version 2000 Info

Vulgate - 1Cr 6:9 - an nescitis quia iniqui regnum Dei non possidebunt nolite errare neque fornicarii neque idolis servientes neque adulteri
Jerome’s Latin Vulgate 405 A.D. Info

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The homosexuals need to get over it...and repent of their sins.


23 posted on 07/08/2008 8:51:48 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

I don’t believe the word ‘homosexual’ was used in the Genesis account of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Genesis 19). I seem to remember they got nuked because they of their rampant homosexuality.


24 posted on 07/08/2008 8:51:51 PM PDT by BigFinn (NO OHO in 2008.)
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To: Bryan24

Also, this guy seems to not have noticed that this message appears more than once in the Word from the Tanakh to the Gospels.


25 posted on 07/08/2008 8:55:03 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Homosexuals should get over themselves.


26 posted on 07/08/2008 8:56:28 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for yourself!)
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To: All

Of course Romans, Chapter 1 is interesting, too.

http://www.justbible.com/bychapter.asp?bookchap=B45C001.htm


27 posted on 07/08/2008 8:56:41 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: oldenuff2no
What the courts have done for the Constitution they now can do for the holy writ.


28 posted on 07/08/2008 8:59:22 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: oldenuff2no

Noticed your tag line … we are all proud of you and thank you for your service.


29 posted on 07/08/2008 9:03:36 PM PDT by doc1019 (I was taught to respect my elders, but it's getting harder to find one.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

It’s the bastardization of our legal system. This crap should be thrown-out and the lawyer handed the bill. Everything is being tested by our “Judicial” system and the more they “hear” these cases the more the plantiffs find ways to destroy the fabric.


30 posted on 07/08/2008 9:03:47 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Oh Good!
A U.S. Court is going to settle a disagreement regarding an interpretation of a Bible verse!

When this gets to the USSC, I hope Kennedy gets his coin toss correct.......


31 posted on 07/08/2008 9:10:48 PM PDT by G Larry (Fight B.O. with RIGHT GUARD! Vote McCain!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Has he read Romans 1?


32 posted on 07/08/2008 9:20:22 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: ChocChipCookie

“Sue” God? Try KILL God.


33 posted on 07/08/2008 9:20:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
The original article has bee updated and now includes this in the 2nd & 3rd paragraphs:

But a company spokeswoman says Zondervan doesn't translate the Bible or own the copyright for any of the translations. Instead, she said in a statement, the company relies on the "scholarly judgment of credible translation committees."

That is to say, setting aside whether the federal civil rights lawsuit is credible, the company says Bradley Fowler sued the wrong group.

The "suing the wrong group" defense seems like a good way for Zondervan to put the matter behind them with a minimum of fuss and expense.

34 posted on 07/08/2008 9:21:23 PM PDT by vamoose
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Pretty ironic the rest of that verse is about not suing your brethren!


35 posted on 07/08/2008 9:21:54 PM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
The Greek word in question is arsenokoites: arsen = male; koites = related to coitus..."one who lies with a male as with a female"

Think it speaks for itself!

Romans 1:27 "and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error." -- think of one word that fits this description.

36 posted on 07/08/2008 9:28:07 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
There was a lesbian author on C-span this past week-end and she claimed the BIBLE does not say marriage is between and man and a woman. She is nuts. The interviewer let her get away with it and asked what verses fundamentalists interpreted wrong to say it did. I could not believe what I was hearing.
37 posted on 07/08/2008 9:32:29 PM PDT by therut
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To: therut

Genesis 2:24 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.” - the definition of marriage!


38 posted on 07/08/2008 9:37:04 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper
She said the Jesus when he talked about their not being Jew or Gentile,circumcised or uncircumcised etc was saying that it did not matter if men and men or women and women had relationships and married. All were now the same. I kid you not!!!
39 posted on 07/08/2008 9:41:50 PM PDT by therut
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To: MaryFromMichigan

What about this verse then?
Leviticus 18:22-23

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion.


40 posted on 07/08/2008 9:43:42 PM PDT by TheBattman (Vote your conscience, or don't complain about RINOs!)
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