Posted on 07/01/2008 1:03:52 PM PDT by Red Steel
Fellow Blog Talk Radio compadre David Zublick over at Heading Right says, “Maybe Not“.
I noted back here that when Kos produced - not a birth certificate - but a certificate of live birth there were several discrepancies noted that pointed to the fact - aside from the convenience - that the document was most likely forged. Since Obama has failed to produce a birth certificate, in-spite of several calls to do so, is telling indeed.
I was born in 1958 in the State of Florida and I can get a birth certificate for ten bucks. I doubt Hawaii was so backward in 1961 that it cannot produce a copy that he could show.
The news orgs are NOT looking into this, but some of us can snoop where others cannot. We’ll see what we can find. Fellow Blog Talk Radio compadre David Zublick over at Heading Right says, “Maybe Not“.
I noted back here that when Kos produced - not a birth certificate - but a certificate of live birth there were several discrepancies noted that pointed to the fact - aside from the convenience - that the document was most likely forged. Since Obama has failed to produce a birth certificate, in-spite of several calls to do so, is telling indeed.
I was born in 1958 in the State of Florida and I can get a birth certificate for ten bucks. I doubt Hawaii was so backward in 1961 that it cannot produce a copy that he could show.
The news orgs are NOT looking into this, but some of us can snoop where others cannot. We’ll see what we can find.
UPDATE: Looks like some have filed the ole FOIA request to force the issue. Meanwhile Doug Ross thinks it’s legit.
One note, Certificates of Live Birth are NOT considered proof of citizenship in many states including Florida, while in other states it is.
Again, why not then just produce the damn certificate, it clears up the whole thing. Until we see that, the issue isn’t closed.
I recreated the FReeper Polarik test using the image software GIMP.
A week ago, I downloaded from the official Obama website "Fight the Smears" Obama's birth certificate. The 'Edge Detect' filter did not show the "embossed seal" on the BC.
Today, I downloaded the Obama birth certificate from the KOS webite, I used the same image filter test to the KOS BC as I did with the one from the Obama campaign website, and walla, the image of the seal pops into view.
Conclusion: the image of the "embossed seal" on the KOS BC is fake.
The "grandmother" who counts and who was purportedly present when he was born in Kenya is not his grandmother at all but was one of the other wives of his father. It is her that the campaign has made off limits for the obvious reason that she knows facts that the campaign does not want revealed.
IIRC, the KOS one never showed the seal. The one from Obama’s site always did.
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg
Damn! (index)
Interesting point. I don't think the Commander in Chief needs a security clearance but on the other hand, his position would involve significant conflicts of interest.
I oppose Obama on the whole list of substantive grounds. I oppose all of his policies from tax to foreign policy and national security and I am concerned about his anti-Judeao/Christian ethical background--and his fundamental beliefs are at best Socialist.
But as a pro-Constitution lawyer, I observe that violating inconvenient Constitutional provisions on political grounds is the slippery slope down which our Constitutional rights and privileges will slide.
The KOS site BC only shows the hidden seal found by filtering. The BC from the Obama campaign website did not.
And it was KOS who originally sent the Obama birth certificate to the Obama campaign website, and the Obama people embraced it as "genuine."
No, Madelyn Dunham is 85 and living in Honolulu, reportedly in the same apartment high-rise building where she raised Obama from age 11 to 18. She has kept totally out of the campaign limelight and refused virtually all interview requests, whether by her preference or not.... certainly the Obama campaign has been determined to run him entirely as a “black” candidate and not as a true bi-racial candidate.
Madelyn Dunham is really the only grandma he ever knew, but the campaign has trotted out a bogus Kenyan grandmother to fill out his fictional stories.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-07-obamagrandma_N.htm
In 1986 this was changed to 5 years before the age of 14 and 2 years after the age of 14. (So some may say he fits in this, but I don't see anywhere where it says it was retroactive back to any previous years.
The only time I remember where it indicated any of the changes was retroactive was when it finally included the mother as being one of the citizens where before it only applied to the father being a citizen.
Do you think this web site is a good source?
There is definitely something fishy going on here.
Where do you see an embossed seal on the certificate from this website you just posted?
Here goes . . .
Even giving Obama every benefit of doubt to include maybe having a cheap scanner and/or saying that not a one of his folks can scan at higher resolution is slightly plausible to a degree. Wrong, as these folks triple check what the send/post.
I would think providing the real birth certificate would help him. So, why not provide it? The real birth cerificate and/or a decent scan of the current one could not hurt him?
If a cheap scanner and/or worn out copy is the problem- why not use a better scanner and/or get a new birth certificate copy certified and/or snail mail it to a credible source?
The copy he provided is lame. If I used a DD-214 like that for VA benefits or any Vet organization for membership, I would be asked for a better copy.
FACT.
Why not provide evidence that Obama signed up for Selective Service, too? Heck, there was no draft then. Why not provide that, too.?
Why put out any document that appears poorly copied at best from the DNC?
There was no question as to where they were born.
Here is the letter I wrote to the U.S. Attorney General:
Most Honerable Michael Mukasey,
There has been considerable frustration among a huge number of citizens about Presidental Candidate Barack H. Obama’s true place of birth. We have word that he may have been born in Kenya.
If Barack Obama’s mother gave birth to Barack in Kenya she did not meet the 5 year residency in the U.S. after the age of 16 because she was 18 when she gave birth. The bottom line is that if he was born in Kenya, which I believe he clearly was, he just is not a citizen under the statute Sec. 1401(g) and he is not eligible to serve as President under Article II, Sec. 1, Par. 4.
How can we get the State of Hawaii to release the official birth certificate of Barack Obama? We are told he was born in Kapliolani Medical Center (according to Wikipedia) in Honolulu, Hawaii. However, Obama’s brother, sister and Kenyan grandmother all insist he was born in Kenya!
It is time we have answers and that they be released to the press.
Regards,
(My Name and Address)
Good for you!
Obama may or may not have known where he had been born as a child but its quite obvious that he does now and the fact that he’s lending his support to fraudulent documentation about his birth gives a pretty good indication that it wasn’t in the U.S.
>>>>I don’t think the Commander in Chief needs a security clearance....
I never knew that. Thanks.
This was posted on another thread, tuckrdout talks about Obama’s name change.
As a matter of fact, Mr. Obama did change his name..went by the name, “Barry Soetoro” until college. Then he had some kind of conversion that made him want to suddenly go by his muslim name. And shortly after that, he travelled to Karachi, and spent 3 weeks there. What red blooded American College kid, besides John Walker Lindh, goes to Pakistan, for a vacation? There are no movie theaters, no booze, no bars, no music...and the girls are all covered up! This is where Osama Bin Laden’s #2 man was found and killed. Al Qa’eda has a big foot hold in this city...after being there for 3 weeks, Obama then went over to Hyderabad, the large Muslim stronghold in India, for another week. These are not vacation hot spots! Why did he go there; to where the terror cells were born?
I am not seeing a Christians denunciation of Islam, in Obama, and a strong witness to the changing power of Jesus Christ, in his life.
Part of the Muslim “Jihad”, is that it is okay to lie, to pretend not to be Muslim, when trying to bring Islam to Christians. It is called, “Hudaibiyah Treaty”—which means, “kiss the hand of your enemy until you can cut it off!”
If a Muslim is on Jihad to destroy the “great satan America”, from within, and knew that he had to be a Christian to be elected President of the United States, what kind of church would he join? He couldn’t stand to hear about Jesus being the only way, week after week. Seems he would want to join a church that instead praises muslim leaders from Libya and the Nation of Islam, and spouts curses on the United States.
I would have to hear Obama renounce Islam, personally. Say that he does NOT believe that allah is the only God, and muhammad is his only prophet, to believe that he is not an undercover muslim on jihad. That is what it is going to take. If he is a believer in Jesus Christ as the son of God; who lived and died for our sins, and was raised again from the dead...if he will say these things, I would feel much better about him. I will not worry that he is really out to finish the job started on 9-11.
But, all his associations point to deception and anti American sentiment. I do not believe that he has the best interest of our Country at heart. I believe that the man wants to destroy our nation, as we know it. He is telling us flat out that he is going to Change our nation. We don’t want his kind of change!
tuckrdout
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