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A Search for Answers in Russert’s Death
NY Times ^ | June 17, 2008 | DENISE GRADY

Posted on 06/17/2008 6:03:22 PM PDT by neverdem

Given the great strides that have been made in preventing and treating heart disease, what explains Tim Russert’s sudden death last week at 58 from a heart attack?

The answer, at least in part, is that although doctors knew that Mr. Russert, the longtime moderator of “Meet the Press” on NBC, had coronary artery disease and were treating him for it, they did not realize how severe the disease was because he did not have chest pain or other telltale symptoms that would have justified the kind of invasive tests needed to make a definitive diagnosis. In that sense, his case was sadly typical: more than 50 percent of all men who die of coronary heart disease have no previous symptoms, the American Heart Association says.

It is not clear whether Mr. Russert’s death could have been prevented. He was doing nearly all he could to lower his risk. He took blood pressure pills and a statin drug to control his cholesterol, he worked out every day on an exercise bike, and he was trying to lose weight, his doctors said on Monday. And still it was not enough.

If there is any lesson in his death, his doctors said, it is a reminder that heart disease can be silent, and that people, especially...

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Even so, Dr. Newman said, “the autopsy findings were a surprise.”

In an interview, Dr. Newman and Mr. Russert’s cardiologist, Dr. George Bren, said the autopsy found significant blockages in several coronary arteries, which feed blood to the heart muscle.

Blockages start out as cholesterol deposits in the artery walls that turn into lesions or plaques, narrowing the vessels. Heart attacks occur when a plaque ruptures, causing a blood clot that quickly closes the artery and pinches off the blood supply to part of the heart...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autopsy; cad; cardiology; health; heart; heartattack; medicine; russert
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To: STARWISE

It is actually supposed to be quite an aid to people with digestion problems. If you start off with a small amount, you can up the amount you take over time.

If you can’t tolerate it orally, I think you can get topical creams that have it in.


81 posted on 06/17/2008 11:50:27 PM PDT by djf (I don't believe in perpetual motion. Perpetual mutton, that's another thing entirely!)
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To: neverdem
Man, that is born of a woman, hath but a short time to live, and is full of misery. He cometh up, and is cut down, like a flower; he fleeth as it were a shadow, and never continueth in one stay.

In the midst of life we are in death; of whom may we seek for succour, but of thee, O Lord, who for our sins art justly displeased?

-ccm

82 posted on 06/17/2008 11:58:53 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Maynerd
With all due respect, calicum scoring is old technology.

With all due respect, I was asked what I thought about it in comment# 50. The abstract for the link I provided didn't strike me as a glowing endorsement for screening from a recent paper.

83 posted on 06/18/2008 12:01:18 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: Maynerd

my husband had a 64-slice CT scan a month after his younger 46-year old brother died of a heart attack... i wonder if Tim Russert had one done... if not, i wonder why... even if one has no insurance, it’s not that expensive... it’s especially worth it if one is high risk...


84 posted on 06/18/2008 12:05:43 AM PDT by latina4dubya
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I posted the story because he had an autopsy!

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85 posted on 06/18/2008 12:39:34 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: chesty_puller; neverdem

I’ve seen some patients who just don’t fit the profile, with normal cholesterol, active lifestyles, non-smokers, etc., and have begun to wonder about some connection with a flare of inflammation due to stress, injury or infection.

My 72 year old daddy had an incidental finding of a 6 cm abdominal aortic aneurysm, which led to a heart cath showing single blood vessel disease with 90% occlusion in the Right coronary. Daddy smoked 3-4 packs a day for 60 years - still about 1/2 to 1 ppd, on and off. (Even an aortic aneurysm repair and a new bride won’t deter him for long.)


86 posted on 06/18/2008 1:09:46 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Chuck54

God bless and speedy recovery! (Do what the docs - or at least your wife - tell you to do, okay?)


87 posted on 06/18/2008 1:12:57 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: neverdem

Interesting, after reading all comments there is no mention of what type of food he ate or how he managed his stress levels of his intense lifestyle, as possible contributing factors. This is discussed extensively in other blogs.
Russert is, unfortunately, a primae facie example of the shortcomings of modern medicine, and it should well give people cause to question. Freepers are generally uninformed about the burgeoning alternatives to the medical model.


88 posted on 06/18/2008 1:46:30 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ( Est deus in nobis)
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To: neverdem

Can everyone request an autopsy? If the authorities won’t pay for it how much do they cost on a private pay basis?


89 posted on 06/18/2008 3:49:18 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: hocndoc

Thanks hocndoc.

I had a pretty good night, slept pretty sound, and feel stronger every day.

Life’s good.

:)


90 posted on 06/18/2008 6:24:32 AM PDT by Chuck54
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To: VOA

I agree VOA that is a sad situation. Just think of the thousands every day who do not take the small symptoms serious, do not have the very concerned family such as yours, and die lonely and alone.

Your dad seemed from the “old school”, as well as mine was and just didn’t want to be a bother to anyone.

They are missed greatly but the memories are forever.


91 posted on 06/18/2008 6:29:21 AM PDT by Chuck54
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To: Huck

My nurse friend asserts that

ROYAL ARTERIAL FLUSH

is for real and really effective.

I don’t have a link handy.


92 posted on 06/18/2008 6:37:01 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: chesty_puller

LOL on the state pride. Glad everything worked out for you.

Thanks so much for your service!


93 posted on 06/18/2008 6:51:36 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: Maynerd
Thanks for clarifying the differences in the testing. Now when it's time for me to get my heart checked out by my docs, I won't be totally clueless on what they're doing.

Now here's another question: If the CT Russert had showed a moderate to high risk of heart attack from the amount of calcified plaque in the arteries - shouldn't a conscientious MD have ordered the CT angiogram (to look for the soft plaque you described), and possibly other more involved tests to determine if Russert was a walking time bomb? Or am I again confused by thinking that the CTA shows soft plaque?

94 posted on 06/18/2008 7:48:50 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican
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To: onemiddleamerican
Now here's another question: If the CT Russert had showed a moderate to high risk of heart attack from the amount of calcified plaque in the arteries - shouldn't a conscientious MD have ordered the CT angiogram (to look for the soft plaque you described), and possibly other more involved tests to determine if Russert was a walking time bomb?

There will be lots of second guessing. Coronary CTA is relatively new. It requires the latest greatest CT scanners to visualize the coronary arteries adequately. Many (most) physicians don't know much about it. Some cardiologists have not embraced the technology since they don't perform the test and it undermines tests that their business model relies on.

Coronary CTA has its limitations and you do receive a slug of radiation (although not much more than any other ct of the body). To learn more google coronary cta and or Dr. David Dowe. He's performed over 5000 coronary ct's and is a true expert.

95 posted on 06/18/2008 8:02:05 AM PDT by Maynerd (McCain is a pompous ass, Obama is a left wing pompous ass.)
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To: neverdem

Going to the cath lab would be the best thing, but we can’t test every person this way and there could be serious complications from the test it self. Right now the best thing is a resting EKG, stress test, and a normal and stress echo. If these are normal and you have a negative family history you are pretty safe, but there will still be some people who pass every test and still get sick.


96 posted on 06/18/2008 8:06:08 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: neverdem
Autopsy rates in this country are abysmal.

My Dad died almost five years ago from sudden heart failure at 75. They asked us if we wanted an autopsy. I said why - it's not going to bring him back.
97 posted on 06/18/2008 8:08:33 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: neverdem

Not really sure where there’s a surprise. He was an overweight guy and according to Michael Wilbon just a few months ago (after Wilbon had a heart attack) they had a long discussion about life and heart troubles and work, and Russert specifically mentioned how he doesn’t eat right during election years because he’s so busy. Seems to me that’s the answer.


98 posted on 06/18/2008 8:11:52 AM PDT by boogerbear
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To: reagan_fanatic
I said why - it's not going to bring him back.

Obviously, it's not. But it is a learning opportunity. We don't know what we don't know. You have to figure out the right question first. Sometimes you find it serendipitously. Others, it's a laborious trial and error. But you can't find it if you don't look.

99 posted on 06/18/2008 8:55:51 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: raybbr
Can everyone request an autopsy?

Seek and you shall find.

If the authorities won’t pay for it how much do they cost on a private pay basis?

I have no idea.

100 posted on 06/18/2008 9:09:34 AM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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