Posted on 06/13/2008 7:07:31 AM PDT by shrinkermd
Republicans and conservatives are rallying behind Sen. John McCain's White House bid, but not because they are so enamored with him or his agenda. Instead, their loyalty is based on their perception that Illinois Sen. Barack Obama as president, particularly with large Democratic majorities in both chambers of Congress, would be utterly disastrous.
Regardless of whether you agree with them about the results of a Democratic presidential victory later this year, a McCain victory might produce its own series of domino-like events that ultimately might hurt the Grand Old Party.
...I don't necessarily agree with Stewart that a McCain victory in November would lead to the "eradication" of the GOP, but it's easy to see how a McCain presidency could end up being a nightmare for Republicans.
In the worst-case scenario, a McCain victory in November could likely lead to a Republican bloodletting that would tear apart the GOP well before 2012, contribute to another good Democratic election in 2010 and hand Democrats such a strong advantage during redistricting that Republicans wouldn't be able to recover for years.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
The media is already doing their best to create a cult of personality around this guy and demonize everybody who opposes him as a rascist. Now, think about what will happen once he gets the reins of power. He'll have the White House machinery, Congress and all the MSM providing a steady drumbeat of stories about his astonishing wonderfulness. And there is no Reagan in the current GOP who will be able to challenge him four years from now. And no Gingrich in the Congress to lead a repeat of 1994. This guy scares me. Eight years of him and this country will be unrecognizable.
And I forgot to mention PR statehood to add more reliable Democratic electoral votes. And DC statehood to make if harder for the GOP to take back Congress. These aren’t being talked about now but wait until next year.
Who won Congress in 1994?
Who do you want to win Congress in 2010?
Do you realize the Democrat leftists wouldn’t have to ever win another election to see their agenda pushed through?
With guys like McCain, they’d realize about 70 to 80% of their agenda and have snow white fingers at the end of the process.
I’m not going to sit still and watch that happen.
“BTW, did you think it was better for Bill Clinton to win in 1992, also?”
I don’t think it was better.
George H W Bush is a man of high character.
Bill Clinton, John McCain: not so much.
“The media is already doing their best to create a cult of personality around this guy and demonize everybody who opposes him as a rascist. Now, think about what will happen once he gets the reins of power. He’ll have the White House machinery, Congress and all the MSM providing a steady drumbeat of stories about his astonishing wonderfulness. And there is no Reagan in the current GOP who will be able to challenge him four years from now. And no Gingrich in the Congress to lead a repeat of 1994. This guy scares me. Eight years of him and this country will be unrecognizable.”
If you believe 8 years of Obama is a scary likelihood, your problem is with the voters...and possibly Democracy itself.
Clinton et. al. couldn't get the job done.
You're saying Obamessiah is more politically competent than the Clintons?
Really?
“And remember, even with a Republican congress, Bill Clinton gave us Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer...”
FALSE!!
IT WAS A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS THAT CONFIRMED GINSBURG-BREYER!!
“...and a whole raft of lower court judicial appointments that are wrecking havoc on us to this day.”
When the time came to help with lower court appointments, John McCain’s 14 gangbangers *uc*** America in the @$$.
Rothenberg is not a conservative.
Taking his advice is nuts.
If the Dems puts up a moderate, I’d throw in the towel. But Obama is the MOST LEFTIST AND LEAST QUALIFIED NOMINEE EVER.
Some conservatives are withholding support for McCain. Here is my response to those that are on the fence:
1. McCain is a moderate-to-conservative, Obama was rated *most liberal* Senator in the Senate last year. McCain is better on taxes, Judges, Iraq, Iran, GWOT, right-to-life, gun rights, earmarks/spending, and gay marriage (Obama will use his bully pulpit to encourage it)
2. McCain is a capable and experienced man who served the country his whole life, even spending 5 years in a POW camp. Obama has spent a lifetime raised and associated with radicals, marxists, and leftwing activists; he has served ‘the cause’ of leftwing politics only and nothing else. He has no accomplishments worthy of note except getting elected.
3. Ideology aside, and putting just the basic protection of the country on the line, there is no comparison - McCain is better.
4. We vote based on who is best for the country as top priority. Republican conservatives can clean up the mess of RINO poop in the RNC later as a secondary priority, but the top priority of a patriot is what is best for America. Country before party!
5. Based on #1, #2 and #3, McCain is far far better for this country than Obama. Neither man is ‘evil’, but far more bad things will happen to USA if Obama is elected.
6. You never win by losing. The most leftwing President in American history - Obama - will be a huge blow to the conservative cause. Anyone who thinks otherwise is on drugs.
Really?
Are you kidding me? This guy came out of nowhere and took the Democratic nomination, beating the Clintons in the process. This is something the GOP never did, at least at the Presidential level. Of course he's more politically competent than the Clintons.
HERE IS THE REAL PROBLEM:
If Obama wins, we have 41 GOP Senators come January (down from 49) and 170 Congressman (down from about 200).
BY 2010 IT WONT MATTER:
- AMNESTY PASSES, PERMANENT DEM MAJORITY
- SOCIALIZED MEDICINE PASSES, HIGHER COSTS LESS FREEDOM
- DEMS PUT BILLIONS FOR LIB SPECIAL INSTERESTS
- END CLEAN UNION ELECTIONS (end the secret ballot)
- DAVIS-BACON ADDS BILLIONS TO GOVT COSTS
- $800 BILLION TAX INCREASE
- LIBERAL ACTIVIST SCOTUS JUSTICES MEANS ROE V WADE FOR 30 MORE YEARS
- RETREAT AND DEFEAT IN GWOT JUST WHEN WE WERE WINNING IN IRAQ
- GAYS IN THE MILITARY AND GAY MARRIAGE ON TRACK
- CLIMATE BILL REGULATES OUR CO2 WITH TRILLIONS IN COSTS
- NO SOLUTION TO SOCIAL SECURITY EXCEPT HIGHER TAXES
- FAIRNESS DOCTRINE USED TO SHUT US UP
Come 2010, there is nothing left to fight over. USA as a country will not be recognizable.
It wont even matter if we have a comeback.
His correct point is that if you give these guys the levers of power, they can use it to HOLD ON to power.
Incumbency is worth 5% in any election, ask any political operative. Money, support, media, etc. all are easier.
The best way to stop a Democrat is before they get into office and not after.
What you said.
ROFLMAO ... Look how weak and vapid Obama is ... running away from town halls with McCain:
Barack Obama’s counter-offer to do two joint forums on top of the three sanctioned debates is far short of what the McCain camp wants. Team McCain recognizes that their preferred 10 won’t come to fruition but think Obama’s counter is something of an insult.
And they have a counter to the counter:
“Barack Obama requires more preconditions to meet with voters and John McCain than he does Mahmoud Ahmadinejad,” said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds.
“I thought we settled this question in 1992. If eight years of the Clintons plus their enduring legacy in the executive departements, the CIA, the FBI, and the judiciary isn’t enough to convince conservatives that an Obama presidency would be a very BAD thing, then nothing is.”
Correct. Take a look at this awesome video that shows how history repeats itself.
http://no-bama.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-is-another-jimmy-carter.html
“Are you kidding me? This guy came out of nowhere and took the Democratic nomination, beating the Clintons in the process. This is something the GOP never did, at least at the Presidential level. Of course he’s more politically competent than the Clintons. “
Excellent point! We underestimate him at our own risk.
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