Posted on 06/11/2008 8:00:44 AM PDT by DaveyB
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
Quoting from the Bible has been banned in a community room at the public library in Clermont County, Ohio, and now a couple who sought to use the facility for a financial planning seminar have brought a court case.
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However, when Cathy Vandergriff asked in person to use a meeting room for a financial planning meeting, the conversation with the library employee took an unwelcome turn.
"When Mrs. Vandergriff indicated that the seminar would be a free ministry to the general public, the employee asked if she would be quoting the Bible in the presentation. Mrs. Vandergriff answered that she would be using the Bible, and the employee informed her that the Library's Policy would therefore not permit her to use the meeting room,"...
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Communist goals number 27 & 28
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
This is a neighboring county in Ohio. This makes me sick. It seems things have been getting dramatically worse and worse. The liberals would love for it to be like areas of Europe where quoting parts of the Bible deemed offensive is a hate crime.
Congressman Billybob
Given this is WorldNutDaily there has got to be more to the story. No Library’s should not be denying on religious grounds, but at the same time it is WorldNutDaily. Remember months ago they reported on a church that supposedly couldn’t play Gospel music, but failed to mention that the church was blatantly and willfully violating already existing noise ordinances.
But don’t worry. The library computers are open for all the porn you want!!
CINCINNATI — Alliance Defense Fund attorneys and allied attorneys filed suit Wednesday against the Clermont County Public Library for not allowing a seminar because it involved biblical references. The lawsuit was filed on behalf of an Ohio couple and the Institute for Principled Policy after the library denied their request to access a library meeting room to conduct a biblically based financial planning seminar.
“Christian organizations shouldn’t be discriminated against for their beliefs,” said ADF Legal Counsel Tim Chandler. “Refusing to grant this group permission to hold a seminar at a meeting room in a public library because they planned to quote the Bible is about as blatantly un-American and unconstitutional as you can get. What’s next? Will the library board attempt to keep patrons from checking out Bibles and reading them on government property?”
The only written explanation provided by the library for its denial of the request form submitted by George and Cathy Vandergriff is that its meeting room policy prohibits “quoting Bible verses.” The policy states that “meeting rooms are available to all community groups and non-profit organizations engaged in activities that further the Library’s mission to be responsive to community needs and to be an integral part of our community.”
“The denial sends the message to the Vandergriffs and other Christians that they are not deemed a valuable part of the community. Christians have the same First Amendment rights as anyone else in America,” said ADF Senior Counsel Kevin Theriot. “Any government policy denying equal access rights to a group simply because it intends on quoting Bible verses does not comport with the Constitution. This is a financial planning seminar, and the library has previously allowed meetings that discuss financial planning. The fact that they may quote Bible verses during the meeting does not legally matter.”
The Institute for Principled Policy planned to sponsor the two two-hour seminars for 10 attendees April 18 and 19 at the library using Larry Burkett’s Crown Ministries materials.
The complaint filed by ADF-allied attorney David Langdon in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, Western Division, in Vandergriff v. Clermont County Public Library Board of Trustees is available at www.telladf.org/UserDocs/VandergriffComplaint.pdf.
I bet reading the Koran is okay. Someone should sit in there and quietly read aloud and when asked to leave be recording it, better yet when they have you arrested take them to court.
What does the American Library Ass. say about this?
Will they feature the Bible in their next prominent Banned Book Week in September?
World Nut Daily.
That’s a good one.
Same justification people used a week ago to deny the story about the public school in Friendswood Texas (near Houston) that had CAIR indoctrinate kids in a pro-muslim powerpoint presentation.
Yet the library welcomes the tax dollars and charitable donations of Christians. If Christians can’t use the library for non-secular reasons, then they should have the ability to opt out of financially supporting.
The employee and and supervisors who made and/or enforced this unconstitutional and bigoted rule should be terminated on the spot.
I didn’t deny the story. I said there is most likely more to it that WND is failing to mention.
From the American Library Association website at http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/bannedbooksweek/bbwkit/bbwkit.cfm
"For more information on Banned Books Week: Celebrating Your Freedom to Read, please contact the American Library Association/Office for Intellectual Freedom call OIF at 1-800-545-2433, ext. 4220, or at Bryan Campbell at bcampbell@ala.org."?
You all might want to write him and ask the same question. I did!
Here's what is on its way, the more liberal and all inclusive this nation becomes, the more fascism seems to be on the horizon. Believe me, I'm an expert on that living in CA, but the Lord continues to call believers in this state to do battle on the front lines of the culture war (so to speak).
People can say what they want about WND, they are the only ones reporting on most of these types of stories. The government media complex certainly won't.
See:
“Government to Pastor: Renounce your Faith!”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=66704
Those librarians are going to be filling out unemployment forms to get their hands on taxpayer dollars inscribed with “In God We Trust” once the court system utterly bankrupts the library system.
If people are shouting scripture waving a Bible in the air, that is one thing. It is completely another if people are using the scrpiture for reference in a finincial management class. THis is pure biased idiocy. The library would have no problem if they were looking up porn on computers I’ll bet.
I’d like to see some background on their financial planning seminar.
Unfortunately, too many people use Christianity as a cover for unscrupulous business practices. It’s sad, but after being ripped off by a “Christian-based business,” I will generally avoid any company that openly touts its Christianity.
If it’s either Crown Financial or Dave Ramsey it is good stuff. Those 2 are the most common, and both are very good.
On a more serious note, although they are corrently represented, this is right up Jay Seculow’s (sp) alley. The American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) ( www.aclj.org ) specializes in religious discrimination issues.
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