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No Way to Tell if Plastinated Bodies Come from Executed Prisoners - Company Admits
LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/30/08 | Hilary White

Posted on 06/01/2008 1:03:38 PM PDT by wagglebee

NEW YORK, May 30, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The New York State Attorney General’s office has ordered the owners of a “plastinated” body display in New York to post signs at the entrance of the exhibit telling visitors that it is not possible to confirm whether the bodies displayed were those of executed Chinese prisoners who may have been victims of torture.

The order came last Thursday after the company, Premier Exhibitions, admitted it had no way of knowing the exact origin of the bodies, all of which were obtained in China, a country that executes more of its citizens than any other nation. Under the terms of the settlement, the New York Times reports, the exhibitors cannot obtain new bodies without documentation proving the individual’s identity, cause of death and consent for the body to be displayed. The company has put aside $50,000 for refunds to visitors who have seen the display.

“Respect for the dead and respect for the public requires that Premier do more than simply assure us that there is no reason for concern,” Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo said. “This settlement is a start.”

Throughout the controversy, Premier insisted that the bodies were “unclaimed” deceased, obtained lawfully through Dalian Medical University Plastination Company in northern China. Human rights experts in Chinese prison systems, however, were adamant that the status of being “unclaimed” meant that at least some of them had been prisoners.

Since 1995, exhibitions of preserved and partly dissected human bodies have been shown in public venues around the US, Canada and Europe. The shows have been wildly successful, earning millions for the owners, but serious questions are increasingly being raised as to the origins of the bodies and more broadly, the ethics of the idea as a whole.

Two sets of displays of plastinated bodies, Body Worlds, started by the inventor of the process, Dr. Gunter von Hagens, and Bodies...The Exhibit by Premier, a rival company, are travelling the world and are currently being shown in Manchester and Cincinnati respectively, as well as in New York.

Dr. von Hagens has opened his procedures up to scrutiny and has offered to show public health authorities in California documentation showing the donors of his bodies gave their consent. Von Hagens told ABC news that he had stopped using bodies from China because they may have been those of executed prisoners. He said that when he had discovered signs on some of the bodies that indicated execution, he had them cremated. “There is now no way for me any more to work with specimens in China,” he said.

Even so, California legislators, as well as some US Congressmen are putting forward legislation requiring such exhibits to produce full documentation proving consent for all plastinated human remains brought into and shown in the United States. In addition, Congressman Todd Akin of Missouri has introduced federal legislation that would prohibit the import of any plastinated human remains into the US.

The move follows allegations by human rights activist Harry Wu, a Catholic who spent 19 years in Chinese labour camps for opposing the communist regime. Wu said that the bodies used by the Premier display came from executed and tortured Chinese prisoners. Wu established the Laogai Research Foundation in 1992 to gather information and spread public awareness on the Chinese Laogai, or prison system, the execution of prisoners, forced abortions and persecution of religious and minority groups.

Ethical questions surrounding the plastination and display of human remains, however, are not limited to those of consent. In an email, Dr. von Hagens’ spokesman, Georgina Gomez, told LifeSiteNews.com that the displays could be compared to the use of the remains of saints by Catholics, pointing to the miraculously incorrupt body of St. Catherine Laboure, a Marian visionary who is displayed for the veneration of the faithful in France.

Gomez wrote that the display “invites contemplation about death, consciousness, and soul through the post mortal body, and provokes philosophical and religious self recognition”.

But Christian theologians and some Jewish authorities are saying that the displays are inherently offensive to human dignity. While Catholic teaching does not object to the use of cadavers for legitimate scientific or medical research, it insists that the sacredness of human life translates to the dignity of the body, even in death. To Catholics, the body is “a temple of the Holy Spirit,” a place where God Himself dwells, and will be raised up from death and glorified on the last day.

It is not only Christians who object. Orthodox Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein, an advisor to Body Worlds, said, “Jews should be aware that this is a fundamentally un-Jewish way of treating bodies.”

“We view the body as an instrument that brought holiness to the world, since the body is the vehicle that enables the soul to do its job. Every part of Jewish funeral practice stresses that there is this element of holiness [in the body]. We view holiness as something that human beings can and do create, and it leaves lasting effects. Therefore, the notion that the body is something that can be disposed of at will as long as you have the consent of the deceased is foreign and repugnant to Judaism.”

"Just as you can't take sefer Torah [Torah scroll] and use it as wallpaper for a synagogue, you can't take a body and cut it up and put it on display," he said.

The Body Worlds exhibit will continue at the Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester until June 29. The Bodies...the Exhibit display continues at the Cincinnati Museum Center at Union Terminal until September 1.

See related LifeSiteNews report:

Plastinated Body Display "Objectifies" People Edmonton Bishops Warn
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/may/08052705.html



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bodyworks; cadavers; china; moralabsolutes; plastination; prolife; vonhagens
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1 posted on 06/01/2008 1:03:39 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 06/01/2008 1:04:13 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 06/01/2008 1:04:37 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
If these bodies were cheaper to obtain, what difference does it make? This is the model we have adopted with glee. So be it.

I don't see much objection to what we have facilitated in China, or what seems to be just ahead on the world stage. This is small potatoes.

4 posted on 06/01/2008 1:08:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Ooo what's that terrible smell? Oh, I stepped in a big pile of 'lesser of two evils'. Careful...)
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To: wagglebee

I don’t understand why anyone would want to see something like, this let alone pay to!


5 posted on 06/01/2008 1:13:37 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: wagglebee

This “museum” is absolutely despicable. And it’s unfair that I should have to be subjugated to its gruesome advertisements.

Almost as unfair as the dead having their innards put on display because some enterprising person bought them.


6 posted on 06/01/2008 1:14:52 PM PDT by buck jarret
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To: DoughtyOne
While I generally agree with you, my only concern would be that if people were being killed to be "exported".

After all, remember the condemned murderer that donated his body to science? Death by lethal injection, and they immediately froze it solid, to be scraped, from the head down, a fraction of an inch at a time, photographing each layer as it was revealed?

7 posted on 06/01/2008 1:21:41 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: wagglebee

Add executed prisoners to the list.

8 posted on 06/01/2008 1:26:07 PM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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While I am vehemently opposed to abortion, I am not opposed to capital punishment. I am also unconcerned about what will be done with my body when I am through using it. It’s a Christian thing.


9 posted on 06/01/2008 1:26:20 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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To: wagglebee

Too gruesome for me.

It’s sadistic “art”.


10 posted on 06/01/2008 1:30:04 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

Although I have not seen it. I never liked the Body Worlds Exhibit. Something about respect and honor for the dead.


11 posted on 06/01/2008 1:34:23 PM PDT by shineon
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To: shineon

I know that Doctors must work with cadavers to learn their trade. But so must mortitians. I just don’t like the exhibit. Have just a little respect for the dead.


12 posted on 06/01/2008 1:36:13 PM PDT by shineon
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13 posted on 06/01/2008 1:36:25 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I don’t understand why anyone would want to see something like, this let alone pay to!

There are many ghouls skulking amongst humanity. Things like this "exhibit" draw them like flies to sh*t.
14 posted on 06/01/2008 1:38:38 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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To: wagglebee

I don’t see anything wrong with showing cadavers to the general public. However, there is absolutely no excuse for exporting unclaimed bodies in order to make a profit.

If this display was primarily about educating people about the body, it would have been put in a library or museum to be seen for free, not a traveling, profiteering circus.


15 posted on 06/01/2008 1:41:06 PM PDT by Soothesayer (I'm breaking out of this hand basket!)
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To: Soothesayer

Agreed. It would be a much different story if these were people who donated their bodies to science. I’d bet that people would willingly donate their bodies for the project. But, as you said - it should be displayed in a museum or medical college, not a traveling circus.


16 posted on 06/01/2008 2:21:40 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: wagglebee

They say that there is “no way to tell”. I’m thinking of the TV Show Bones right now...

They can’t be serious when they say there is no possible way - DNA tests, and marks on the bones and such related to torture - unless the plasticizing process destroys such things.

Regardless, while I may not disagree with the project itself in a purely educational way, to use discarded bodies from China makes it SO questionable. Exploitive to say the least...

As I said in my post above this - there is no doubt that if given the opportunity people would willingly donate their bodies for this project. AND, this should be presented in a museum, or medical college/library or the like. The fact that this is a traveling profitable “freak” show, makes it disgusting and immoral IMHO...


17 posted on 06/01/2008 2:28:14 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: wagglebee

Wonder if there is any truth to the claim that the exhibits have been wildly successful.

And yes, there are people who are addicted to looking at the dead. On the Internet and in this intance.


18 posted on 06/01/2008 2:30:07 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: wagglebee

I had to look it up:

Plastination is a technique used in anatomy to preserve bodies or body parts. The water and fat are replaced by certain plastics, yielding specimens that can be touched, do not smell or decay, and even retain most microscopic properties of the original sample.

From Wikipedia.


19 posted on 06/01/2008 2:36:53 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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The Chicoms will export ANYTHING.

I got mine at Wal*Mart.

20 posted on 06/01/2008 2:41:15 PM PDT by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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