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Panel kills bill on assault weapons - N.O. lawmaker sought to ban them
The Times-Picayune ^ | May 22, 2008 | Ed Anderson

Posted on 05/22/2008 6:45:51 PM PDT by neverdem

BATON ROUGE -- A pro-gun rights House committee Wednesday shot down, 12-1, a bill to impose a statewide ban on assault weapons starting Jan. 1.

House Bill 68 by Rep. Cedric Richmond, D-New Orleans, is dead for the session unless he can amend it onto another bill. The only member of the House Committee on the Administration of Criminal Justice who voted against killing the bill was Rep. Roy Burrell, D-Shreveport.

Richmond was joined in his presentation by New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin and ranking members of the New Orleans Police Department, who brought confiscated assault weapons and ammunition to the hearing. Nagin said that since Hurricane Katrina, the department has seized more than 600 illegal assault weapons in the city, many used by drug dealers.

Richmond's bill would have required all assault weapons to be turned over to State Police by Jan. 1. It also would have required owners to register their weapons with State Troopers and pass a criminal background check.

Owners who qualify could pay a license fee and get an annual permit. Assault weapons would be confiscated from those who fail the background check. The bill called for a penalty of as long as six months in jail, a fine of as much as $500, or both for having an expired assault weapon permit. Individuals who did not have a permit could be fined as much as $2,000 and face as long as two years in jail, or both.

"There is no sport about these guns," Richmond said. "These guns are made for killing."

Rep. Elbert Guillory, D-Opelousas, said that in his rural district, citizens need weapons to match the firepower of criminals because they are at least 10 minutes away from police help. "They are responsible for their own safety," he said...

(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: assaultweapons; ban; banglist
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To: Domandred
Ray Nagin and his band of stupid @$$holes belong in federal prison for what they did to law-abiding Americans.

See their stories here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhvV2uz10eA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncq_Nu3dRSI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCX1OfhckC8&feature=related

Lock them all up, and throw away the key!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 05/22/2008 8:37:33 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: hiredhand; Gilbo_3; Lurker

LOL......he’s just another dimwit socialist idiot that thinks, or wants others too think, (or doesn’t think at all) the 2nd is about hunting.

Doom on em .......:o)


22 posted on 05/22/2008 8:38:48 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: neverdem

Wow. It really is anything that they want it to be.
I own two of those rifles.
The Gamemaster 760 an “assault” rifle?
The M1A?

I hunted whitetail in the Poconos back in the late 60s/early 70s with them both.


23 posted on 05/22/2008 9:03:30 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: homeguard

yep. they can have them so long as they take all the bullets that come with the gun...


24 posted on 05/22/2008 9:04:41 PM PDT by castlebrew (when aluminum bats are outlawed, only outlaws will have aluminum bats)
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To: Squantos

I think you underestimate these “dimwit socialist idiots” too much - they are, daily and with each election cycle, getting into law-making and law-enforcement positions, they are in the judiciary, they own the media, and they are now trying to get the White House and Congress.

Yes, they ARE socialists/communists. They most certainly are NOT idiots, or they wouldn’t be in the positions they are in. And they are becoming increasingly more bold, more strident, more arrogant, and more OPEN about who and what they really are.

And THAT makes them extremely dangerous. This is 1936 to me...and no one is taking these maniacs seriously.

Maybe WE are the “idiots”...WE should be making EVERY effort to own those law-making positions, thereby ensuring that our rights NEVER get infringed upon.

Instead we sit out here and bitch and complain while THEY’RE doing something to further their agenda, a little more every day. THEY read their Alinsky and Sun Tzu.

This is WAR to them. I think it’s about time we start realizing its WAR too and readjust our attitudes and get mentally, physically, and spiritually tough.

They want their little Bolshevik Revolution, Part II. They will find out EXACTLY what the Second Amendment is actually about.


25 posted on 05/22/2008 9:07:08 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: neverdem
"There is no sport about these guns," Richmond said. "These guns are made for killing."

Ding,ding,ding,ding......we have a winner! Finally an anti nut who gets the 2nd Amendment. It took the British a little encounter at Lexington Concord to figure out what a patriot's weapon is for. Maybe Nagin really does understand it. Maybe that's why he wants to steal them.
26 posted on 05/22/2008 9:13:19 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: james500

Thanks for the links.


27 posted on 05/22/2008 9:17:25 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: NFHale

Well I disagree with one of your comments......they are idiots yet they are dangerous as you state ! I have never underestimated em and fight them on every level of goobermint from dog catcher to POTUS nominee. I spend at least part of each day working too stop em .....did so in uniform for 26 years and continue too this day !

It’s our right too bitch and complain yet it’s our demise too do nothing about our situation. Stay after em , liberty is not fast food or forever.

Stay safe !!!


28 posted on 05/22/2008 9:17:59 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: tet68

Philly just tried the same thing. Somebody do a comparison of the list of rifles they tried to ban with that of Philly’s list. Philly’s is IDENTICAL to New Jersey.

I’ll bet this one is identical too, and I’ll bet Nagin was at the Conspiracy of Mayors meeting last year, as Mayor Thugstreet was (from Philly). He turned it over to Mayor Thugnutter to carry on.

Why isn’t this “Conspiracy to Violate Civil and Constitutional Rights” US Code Title 18, Section 241, and “Deprivation of Constitutional Rights Under Color of Law” US COde Tiel 18 Section 242? What about RICO charges?

Come on folks - any lawyers out here who can find something to bring conspiracy and collusion charges against these bastards?

They will try to use Officer Friendly to get this done. He turns into Officer Ninja in Body Armor with Little German Machine Gun, come to kill you and your family if you resist.

Hey LEO’s - you all better think long and hard about obeying this illegal crap before you decide to “stack” in any thresholds. Not everyone will go gently.

I support my police right up until the moment they stop supporting my Constitutional RIGHTS. Then they become Gestapo to me. If they don’t understand the difference between a RIGHT and a privilege, they shouldn’t be wearing a badge, and most assuredly should NOT be entrusted with life-and-death dealing authority over ANYONE.

Nuff said.


29 posted on 05/22/2008 9:22:33 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Here’s the link for the US Code:

http://fatty.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_13.html

Any lawyers out here? Have a peek.


30 posted on 05/22/2008 9:26:07 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: Squantos

You, my friend, are a Patriot, and can disagree with me anytime...

As for staying after them - I live for it.

Molon labe.


31 posted on 05/22/2008 9:34:50 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: Squantos

The citizens of LA need to kick these bastards to the curb.


32 posted on 05/23/2008 3:09:32 AM PDT by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: bill1952

The 2nd has absolutely NOTHING to do with hunting. It would be more in line with the 2nd to ban hunting weapons and only allow citizens to keep martial arms (including full auto and crew served weapons).

We need to gear up for November. You may not like who is running on the Repub. ticket, but it is a lead pipe cinch the Dims will disarm via executive order within 2 years of taking the Whitehouse.


33 posted on 05/23/2008 5:18:32 AM PDT by wrench
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To: neverdem; Squantos; hiredhand
Rep. Elbert Guillory, D-Opelousas, said that in his rural district, citizens need weapons to match the firepower of criminals because they are at least 10 minutes away from police help. "They are responsible for their own safety," he said...

well we hafta give credit when due...my wall clock with dead batteries is also right twice a day...

34 posted on 05/23/2008 5:41:24 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: NFHale; Squantos; hiredhand
Maybe WE are the “idiots”...WE should be making EVERY effort to own those law-making positions, thereby ensuring that our rights NEVER get infringed upon.

perhaps its just the nature of the beast...Good men do not live their lives seeking positions of power in most cases...those who do, in a desire to serve , ultimately must enter into the arena with a bunch of dirty-fightin socialists...

they then must choose to get dirty as well [which is undesirable for a 'good' man] or engage in politics [ie compromise]...

after several generations the good guys are weeded out sufficiently to have no real power/influence in the establishment and there we are...

'politics' [mans inherently selfish nature] got us into this mess, itll take brutality and fighting-to-WIN [at much personal cost] to set it straight...

we crossed the threshold of it being suicidal/martyrdom long ago as the power grew exponentially as our rights were compromised away...now, like you said, we must determine that line in the sand and be prepared to stand for whats Right, I'll just pray that my children may be unharmed...

35 posted on 05/23/2008 6:03:16 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3

“we crossed the threshold of it being suicidal/martyrdom long ago as the power grew exponentially as our rights were compromised away...now, like you said, we must determine that line in the sand and be prepared to stand for whats Right, I’ll just pray that my children may be unharmed...”

It must be similar to what Jefferson, Adams, etc., went through. It’s mental agony in a way - everything you were raised to believe in, everything that you were taught to believe is now being threatened, the “world turned upside down” indeed...and you’re left with the choice between supporting the enemy, rebelling against them, or doing nothing and waiting to see which way the wind blows.

Doing nothing is NOT an option - they will come eventually, and take an interest in you.

Supporting them is NOT an option - I wasn’t raised to be a traitor to my country.

For myself, - I have GENERATIONS of family staring into my back. They left pieces of themselves all over Europe, the Pacific, Korea, and Souteast Asia. Hell, I’ve got ancestors who wore both Blue AND Grey on my mother’s side.

I owe them.

There’s generations of Americans who died for us. They gave all, gave everything, and never came home, so that we could be here now. The handed us their tomorrows, so we could have today. We owe them.

I’m an American...I’ll do what my ancestors did.
This is MY country.

“I must study Politicks and War that my sons may have liberty to study Mathematicks and Philosophy. “
John Adams to Abigail Adams, [post 12 May 1780]


36 posted on 05/23/2008 8:22:03 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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To: neverdem

If that were to pass, I hope the people would have ignited the powder keg they’re sitting on.

Show them it can’t be done, and if they try it they’ll pay a huge cost.


37 posted on 05/23/2008 8:30:55 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

***How would confiscatng my AR-15 change that?***

It would make you easier to control.


38 posted on 05/23/2008 8:35:17 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: NFHale

***What happens when the other side has judges working for them???***

I could tell you, but it’s not pretty.


39 posted on 05/23/2008 8:36:18 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings. - Optimus Prime)
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To: wastedyears

It was rhetorical...I already know the answer. PA’s DemCom governor has a wife who is a Federal judge. She made the great, really clarifying statement that what this country needs is a “benevolent dictatorship”.

THAT’s how these A**holes think.

And they want MY guns?

Cold day in Hell.


40 posted on 05/23/2008 8:41:57 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By any means necessary.)
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