America's Independent Party Provisional Platform

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[TBP]

Doesn't that sound a whole lot better than open borders, squishiness on pro-life, unconstitutional assaults on free speech, closing Gitmo and bringing the terrorists to the US for tria, ending aggressive interrogation, new global warming restrictions, a record of blockign conservative judges, and the like?

[SandRat]

Been there once before with Ross Perot; the likelihood of winning is ZERO, all the while ensuring the election of Broom Hilda or B.O. in Nov is guaranteed.

[TBP]

Just as John Anderson guaranteed Carter’s re-election.

Just as Wallce siphoned off vbotes and guaranteed Hubert ?Humhrey’s victory.

Why not vote your principles insted of expediency?

When teh Democrats win, it’s like we’re driving off a cliff at 100 MPH. At lest the Republicans drive the speed limit — but you’re still going off the cliff. If you want to vote for McCain instead of the other two to drive you off the cliff, that’s certainly your right. But you’re still going to go off the cliff.

Why not turn the car around?

[ZGuy]

Not true (that voting American Independent will ensure the victory of a democrat). In blue states which the dems have no chance of losing, republicans/conservatives can show support for a third party without hurting McCain’s chances at all.

[Squantos]

Maybe a good idea to start now for 2012 elections........not saying this party or the GOP is the answer. But the path we’re taking now is marginal at best IMO.....the lesser than option every time just plain sucks.

Stay safe !

[Drango]

Yawnnnnn little more than an effort to split the conservative vote. A POX on your house.

[TBP]

You know, there is no evidence that Peerot made the difference in 1992. Studies have shown that in a two-way race, his voters split about evenly between the other two — if forced to make a choice.

Furthermore, there are at least two candidates for the disaffected on the left to support — Nader and McKinney. So your argument that we have to support the GOP to keep the Democrats out doesn’t hold water.

Further, as conservatives, what would McCain’s victory get us? As with previous country-club RINO Presidents, we’ll get all the rhetoric and they’ll get all the action.

This atttitude by Republicans that they own conservative votes, that somehow we’re obligated to vote for them no matter what they do is off-putting and offensive.

If Everyone who agrees with the principles of America’s Independent Party voted ofr it, it would win.

You know, the Republicans were considered unable to win either — until they did.

[MrEdd]

I am a conservative not a Republican. I will vote for Republicans IF they are conservative. If Bush's opponent had not been Hanoi John Kerry, I would not have voted in the last election.

Islam's war against the west will inevitably bring the US a nuclear strike. The persistent open borders are a hot potato that will utterly destroy the party in power when it happens. I prefer that the borders be closed - but barring that, let it be the liberals who are destroyed if we're not going to move to prevent it.

This is as obvious and foreseeable as the earlier attacks on September eleventh. Aside from the loss we all will have of family and friends WHEN not if this happens, I recognize that the party who emerges in power will be able to radically reshape government the United States. Many on the left foresee this as well, and are actively working to keep our defenses weak.

I therefore am willing to sacrifice important pieces to win the game. Winning the white house or congress are less important than closing the borders. A candidate who could win an office, at the cost of placing someone in office that the left could justifiably claim failed to aggressively defend America costs conservatism control of the board.

By the same token I will not move to save a socially liberal republican candidate merely to defeat the democrat. Sometimes control of the board is more important than saving every pawn.

If I get a liberal in office who votes liberal while claiming (unchallenged) to represent the party with a conservative platform, then my voice is even more unheard than if a liberal democrat is in office. It means that conservatives will vote for anyone who claims conservatism, even if they are to the left of Hillary Clinton. It also means that the Republican party did this eyes wide open, believing that I (and other conservatives) would vote for a yellow dog if it was a republican. Sorry RNC that only works with democrats.

Semper Fidelis

[SandRat]

In Feb ‘09 just before Broom Hilda or B.O. close down FR as an enemy propaganda hate site and try to send us all to re-education camps I shall be sure to remind you and all the others of all this in the most uncivil fashion.

[1035rep]

"Been there once before with Ross Perot; the likelihood of winning is ZERO, all the while ensuring the election of Broom Hilda or B.O. in Nov is guaranteed."

What you said!

[JoSixChip]

Where do I sign?

[mamelukesabre]

WHat about supreme court judges?

[spinestein]

I can’t hold my nose tightly enough to vote for McCain and I hope he is NOT the next president. I believe a President McCain will do far more damage to conservative principles such as fiscal responsibility and adherence to the Constitution than Bush has done. But if there is a suitable alternative candidate or party for such principles then I don’t know where to find them.

Good luck convincing the voting public to support those ideas.

[DoughtyOne]

I went over to the sight and nosed around. I saw a lot that I liked there. I didn't see any support for the war, although I did see a lot of support for the troops.

If we are going to do anything in reaction to terrorism, operations like Iraq and Afghanistan are going to be necessary. I don't like the idea of war, but you can't just stand around going ‘me oh my’ after terrorists do what they will do. You have to take action. We did. I would like to think the citizens of his nation at least have a clue as to why. Sadly, all too many of them don't.

I see a lot of talk about founding principles. I see talk of adhering to the founding ideas. In recent years I have found that to mean that we shouldn't get involved in foreign entanglements. Absent any expression of support for the War Against Terrorism in the Military section of the sight, I cannot help but think the Independent party does not support it.

That is unfortunate. I have registered as an Independent. And at the present time I could no more vote for their candidate than I can the Republican candidate.

The have linked Ron Paul's comments on ‘No More Hegemony’. That's a great high school term paper, but it's not an adult look at the world from a position of reality.

There is going to be hegemony in the world. The question is, who will be the leading hegemon? If the U.S. withdraws from being the leading hegemon, is that going to end hegemony? Of course not. China, Russia, someone is going to fill the void left by the U.S. And when that nation does, we slowly die out as a world force. If we're not selling our point of view around the world, someone else will sell theirs.

I can see a lot of reasons why someone could back the Independent party. I can also see a very big deal breaker for me. The U.S. MUST stay the top dog. If it does not, the world slowly goes dark as a nation like China imposes it's world view.

Is anyone listening? I sometimes wonder.

Squantos, I know you understand where I'm coming from, so don't think this is directed at you. I appreciate the ping to this topic.

You take care.

[Galactic Overlord-In-Chief]

I wonder if there's a conservative third party that isn't a paleo-conservative outfit.

[DoughtyOne]

If there is, I don’t know of it.

[Guenevere]

bttt

[CindyDawg]

Who is their candidate?

[MrEdd]

As I already said, in the event of war coming to the continental US, they become moot. The current government - if the borders were still open when (not if) it comes will quite rightly be thrown down.

I will actively oppose any attempt to form a government linked to conservatism that refuses to protect the border. It is that critical.

Read Von Clausewitz' On War and study the passages on national will. The current course of government will have an inexorable cost to pay.

Let the liberals be the one to pay it.

[CindyDawg]

Never mind. It’s Alan Keyes.