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N.Y. Orders Large Web Retailers To Charge Tax
wcbstv.com ^ | April 24, 2008 | Tony Aiello

Posted on 04/24/2008 5:27:21 PM PDT by PROCON

State Estimates New Rule Will Bring In $50 Million In 2008

NEW YORK (CBS) ― New York Internet shoppers, take note: in five weeks, sales tax-free shopping will end on many Web sites thanks to rewritten state rules that are trying to force Internet retailers to collect.

At Chrono Tech Watches in White Plains, Jerry Nally is glad the clock is ticking on many Internet retailers that don't charge New York sales tax. Nally says those so-called "e-tailers" steal his customers.

"They'll come in our store, look at our product, touch it, play with it, look at the warranties, then go back to the web and buy it tax free," says Nally.

For years, retailers with "brick and mortar" stores in New York, such as Wal-Mart, have charged sales tax on orders placed through their Web sites. Yet Amazon.com and other e-tailers with no physical stores have not charged the tax, much to the delight of Internet bargain hunters, like online shopper April Cantin.

"Coming here, you have to pay a lot of tax, when you pay on line, you pay nothing, just shipping and handling and the item," she says.

In the midst of a budget crisis, New York is now telling Amazon and certain other large Internet-only vendors they must collect state and local sales tax -- if they allow sales via "click-throughs" from New York-based Web sites. The new rule is set to go into effect on June 1.

The state estimates this new Internet tax will bring in $50 million this year and $75 million next year.

The Retail Council Of New York State hopes the new rule is the first step toward collecting sales taxes on all Internet commerce.

But the new rulings aren't sitting well with the Internet giants. Amazon, the largest Internet retailer, is objecting to the decision, saying "this is the wrong time to increase taxes on New Yorkers."

"You will drive people away. People are not going to want to shop online anymore," says Cantin.

Nally is hoping online businesses will comply, however, telling CBS 2 "it's about time!"

"I have to pay tax, and Amazon should pay tax, it's as simple as that," he says. "There's no reason for a difference." (© MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)


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What think you, New Yorkers?
1 posted on 04/24/2008 5:27:21 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON
The money grubbing corrupt politicians of New Jersey will be next! I give it six months and they will vote overwhelmingly for it!
2 posted on 04/24/2008 5:32:42 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Vote Obama! And we'll be picking shrapnel out of our butts for decades!)
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To: PROCON

I think NY is one of the worst run states in the union. Can’t wait to move out of it.


3 posted on 04/24/2008 5:32:48 PM PDT by benjamin032
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To: PROCON
"They'll come in our store, look at our product, touch it, play with it, look at the warranties, then go back to the web and buy it tax free," says Nally.

Then they go down the street and buy one of those new fangled automobiles and my horse and buggy sales take a hit.

Just damn !

4 posted on 04/24/2008 5:32:54 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Privatizing profits and socializing losses is no way to run an economy)
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To: PROCON
The state estimates this new Internet tax will bring in $50 million this year and $75 million next year.

Typical liberal static analysis. They never factor in the possibility that policy changes result in behavior changes in the buying public. The more likely effect is a large drop in internet purchases. If you want less of something...tax it.

5 posted on 04/24/2008 5:33:16 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: PROCON
What would the Democrats do if they couldn't impose new taxes on Americans?

"If they get their way, they'll charge everything on your 'Taxpayers Express Card.' And believe me, they never leave home without it." - President Reagan


6 posted on 04/24/2008 5:35:59 PM PDT by Prole ("The red and white and starry blue is Freedom's shield and hope!" - John Philip Sousa)
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To: PROCON

That dumb s—t retailer should have been on the horn to his state house demanding they reduce his taxes. Now he’s thrilled that someone else will get taxed.

Typical bastard!


7 posted on 04/24/2008 5:38:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is a poison pill. Accept it! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006492/posts)
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To: PROCON
The really sad thing is that the government leaches actually think they deserve our money.
8 posted on 04/24/2008 5:40:07 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: PROCON

Any savvy web site operator would move to another state and tell New York to go eff themselves!


9 posted on 04/24/2008 5:40:12 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: PROCON
In the midst of a budget crisis, New York is now telling Amazon and certain other large Internet-only vendors they must collect state and local sales tax -- if they allow sales via "click-throughs" from New York-based Web sites. The new rule is set to go into effect on June 1.

Would they rather pay the tax or dump the New York affiliates. I can't think that the affiliates bring in that much business which wouldn't have ended up at Amazon anyway.

I ocassionaly go through an affiliate to help out a friend when I'm buying anyway, but I wouldn't if I had to pay tax.

10 posted on 04/24/2008 5:41:11 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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To: DoughtyOne

“That dumb s—t retailer should have been on the horn to his state house demanding they reduce his taxes. Now he’s thrilled that someone else will get taxed.”

Typical NY Liberal.


11 posted on 04/24/2008 5:41:25 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Vote Obama! And we'll be picking shrapnel out of our butts for decades!)
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To: PROCON

NY Land of Taxes....always has been.


12 posted on 04/24/2008 5:42:10 PM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: PROCON; rmlew; Clemenza

But how many people in New York have friends who live in neighboring states like New Jersey who can take delivery of mail ordered goods to avoid the New York sales tax?


13 posted on 04/24/2008 5:42:17 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: DoughtyOne
That dumb s—t retailer should have been on the horn to his state house

well you can beat your head against a wall all day too. It will only get you a sore head...this is NY...if you're smart you get out of NY.

Like I should...

14 posted on 04/24/2008 5:45:26 PM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: PROCON

Article 1, section 10 of the Constitution says it is illegal for a state to impose “imposts or duties”, save for what may be “absolutely necessary for executing its inspection laws”. Since NY is trying to impose what is effectively an import tax, it ought to be held as unconstitutional.


15 posted on 04/24/2008 5:48:58 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: unixfox

If the item is shipped to NY, it’s taxed at NY rates. Doesn’t matter where the retailer is based.

Unless you just meant to leave the state as a protest.


16 posted on 04/24/2008 5:51:09 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: GregoryFul
Article 1, section 10 of the Constitution says ...

Come on, get with the program, ALL Constitutions are living, breathing documents/s

17 posted on 04/24/2008 5:51:54 PM PDT by PROCON (Dems=You can Fool Some of the People all of the Time--Abraham Lincoln)
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To: GregoryFul

They are trying to backdoor their way in. If an affiliate which links to Amazon is based in New York, the state is trying to claim that Amazon then has a New York presence.


18 posted on 04/24/2008 5:55:20 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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To: PROCON

Solution: “We no longer ship to New York addresses.”


19 posted on 04/24/2008 5:58:09 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Myrddin
You're correct, of course. But what bothers me is the way it's reported in the article:

The state estimates this new Internet tax will bring in $50 million this year and $75 million next year.

The "bring in" phrase is music to liberal ears, as if it would be distributed to all the good citizens of New York.

It's sad, but they truly think that way.

20 posted on 04/24/2008 5:58:52 PM PDT by HoosierHawk
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