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The governor and his guns
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 17 apr 08

Posted on 04/17/2008 12:34:53 PM PDT by rellimpank

Controversy over his concealed carry permit

Gov. Jim Gibbons' 10-year-old permit to carry a concealed firearm has been in the news, of late.

The governor temporarily surrendered his permit after it was found he hadn't re-qualified with each of the nine handguns listed on his permit, the Reno Gazette-Journal reported earlier this month.

The Washoe County sheriff's office renewed the governor's permit in December, after Gov. Gibbons and a certified firearms instructor signed an application reporting he'd demonstrated competence with each of the nine weapons he's licensed to carry, the paper reported.

But the governor carried only seven guns to the range. He promised the instructor he'd come back with the remaining two weapons within a few days, but said he "got busy" and didn't return to be tested after receiving his renewed permit.

(Excerpt) Read more at lvrj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: banglist; gibbons; nv2008
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1 posted on 04/17/2008 12:34:53 PM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
He still has seven. That's enough to kill varmints hundreds of times over. What's the big deal?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 04/17/2008 12:37:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rellimpank
What's this "requalification" crap? "Must issue" should mean must issue, period. Proficiency training is an individual responsibility.
3 posted on 04/17/2008 12:37:50 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: rellimpank

Nine handguns?

Slacker.


4 posted on 04/17/2008 12:44:31 PM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: rellimpank

In Texas if you qualify with a revolver you can carry any revolver you want. If you qualify with a semi you can carry any semi or revolver you want.


5 posted on 04/17/2008 12:45:35 PM PDT by longhorn too
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Qualification requirements in the first place are stupid, but then having to qualify on every firearm you have is even more stupid. I can *almost* understand type qualification (auto vs revolver) but if you have say two glocks that the only difference is caliber you shouldn’t have to qualify on both of them.


6 posted on 04/17/2008 12:48:13 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Domandred

Sidebar: In Idaho you never actually have to even fire a weapon...ever...to qualify for a CCW permit :).


7 posted on 04/17/2008 12:49:30 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: Domandred

“Sidebar: In Idaho...”

Same here in Washington but I’m very surprised the Dems haven’t tinkered with our concealed carry law. That’s why I always make sure it’s current so I’m grandfathered if they ever do.


8 posted on 04/17/2008 12:53:44 PM PDT by beelzepug ("That a-hole Bill Maher stole my tagline!")
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To: Domandred

It’s the same in Oregon and when you get your CCL you can carry any kind of firearm.


9 posted on 04/17/2008 1:07:53 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: rellimpank

Gov. Jim Gibbons
10 posted on 04/17/2008 1:09:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: longhorn too

“In Texas if you qualify with a revolver you can carry any revolver you want. If you qualify with a semi you can carry any semi or revolver you want.”

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That’s what I don’t like about TX CCW law. If you qualify with a revolver, you should be able to carry either a revolver or semi-auto.


11 posted on 04/17/2008 1:14:36 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: rellimpank
"... Washoe County Sheriff Mike Haley interprets the confidentiality requirement so broadly that he won't even comment on whether the firearms instructor faced any discipline for signing off on the governor's permit."

That's my sheriff! He signs all my NFA forms by proxy. Guy reminds me of Oliver North.

About Nevada's supposedly 'goofy' qualification requirement for CCWs: Yes, we do make you qualify with each individual automatic pistol you wish to carry, but revolvers aren't specified. We also insist on training and competency, plus eight hours of classroom instruction on liability, deadly force, justification, and firearms laws. We have higher standards in Nevada and for other states to have reciprocity with us, you must meet our high standards to some degree of satisfaction. We also run periodic background checks on the CCW holder. Information is kept confidential and CCWs in Nevada are 'shall issue'. We have 'Castle Doctrine' which extends to your vehicles.

Is this unreasonable and restrictive? Hardly. In fact, I'm proud to regard our requirements as 'well regulated', in the spirit of the Second Amendment. Nevada does it right.

12 posted on 04/17/2008 1:20:30 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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Mine (ND permit) just says “firearm and dangerous weapon” which leaves a lot of possibilities open...


13 posted on 04/17/2008 1:20:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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In Texas if you qualify with a revolver you can carry any revolver you want. If you qualify with a semi you can carry any semi or revolver you want.

That seems reasonable. In NC, if you can point 3 yards in front of you and pull the trigger at the same time you're in. For any handgun.

14 posted on 04/17/2008 1:31:30 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: The KG9 Kid
Is this unreasonable and restrictive? Hardly. In fact, I'm proud to regard our requirements as 'well regulated', in the spirit of the Second Amendment. Nevada does it right.

Seems like I heard somewhere that the gaming industry had something to do with the drafting of the NV law. My vague recollection is that it had something to do with security guards.

From my perspective it does seem somewhat over-regulated.

15 posted on 04/17/2008 1:39:22 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution ? 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Loading and manipulating a semiauto is considerably more complex than doing the same with a revolver. I’ve seen folks who were OK with a revolver, but were dangerous klutzes with a semiauto in their hands...


16 posted on 04/17/2008 1:41:35 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: The KG9 Kid
I've been in organizations that that would in no way be held as qualified. Matter of fact, most Americans wouldn't ‘qualify’ and yet it was felt it was minimum qualifications. I guess you support decades of hair splitting court cases brought by anti-gunners.

Any citizens is qualified as a citizen. For me this includes felons. The only way and the only organization that control and remove rights and liberties are prisons, by order of a Judge. Other than that, you are free. Free as in no charge or master.

17 posted on 04/17/2008 1:48:48 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: rellimpank

In Michigan, you may carry any handgun you own and may carry any handgun owned by another CCW holder.


18 posted on 04/17/2008 1:49:59 PM PDT by cyclotic (Support Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: TXnMA
Real world training and ‘qualification’ would be around the most common use of handguns. In a car shooting at a carjacker. Is this in anyway practiced? No. Also, in bed, at early morning hours, in a confined space with others in permeable walls. Is this practiced or qualified? No.

I'm not aware of too many attacks which occurs under a shed roof shooting some fair distance across a grass field at your leisure. Yet this that does not occur, under peculiarly simple and non realistic conditions is considered quality.

But, it's what I expect out of government people

19 posted on 04/17/2008 1:56:37 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: rellimpank

He carries nine handguns? Wow- who does his holsters? I start to look bulgy after four.


20 posted on 04/17/2008 2:02:00 PM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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