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Who Is This Man With Obama?
Soda Head ^ | Jan 31, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 03/29/2008 12:59:40 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Who is Odinga? Odinga is Obama's cousin. Odinga and Obama are from the same Kenyan Luo tribe. Odinga supporters are the people that are burning Christians alive, trapped inside churches ... Most of Odinga's fanatical followers are radical islamists who have pushed for Islamic Sharia Law...

... In 2006, Obama took a trip to Kenya and voiced his support for his fellow tribesman and political ally, Odinga.

Obama also directly attacked the sitting Kenyan leadership (Kibaki) calling them 'corrupt'...

... Odinga is the cat that ran on the socialist democrat ticket in Kenya and lost to sitting president Kibaki.

... Odinga has now made a deal for support with Muslim fundamentalists. A photograph copy of a Memorandum of Understanding, dated and signed on August 29, 2007, between Raila Odinga and Sheikh Abdullah Abi, chiarman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya...

http://eakenya.org/newsevents/article.htm?id=8

Here is a summary on the agreement which was signed:

* It pledges the support of Kenyan Moslems for Raila's election. In return, as President of Kenya, Raila, agrees to 14 actions, listed a) through n) on page 2.

* Within 6 months rewrite the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Sharia as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions...

(Excerpt) Read more at sodahead.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: africa; barackobama; christianpersecution; democrats; election; elections; islam; kenya; luo; luotribe; nobama; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile; odinga; railaodinga; sharia; sharialaw
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To: GVnana

The first thing about Kenyan politics (or African politics for that matter) is that it is ethnically driven. Odinga is Luo and Kibaki is Kikuyu.

Jomo Kenyatta (the father of modern Kenya) was Kikuyu, Daniel Arap Moi (came from a minority tribe to balance the friction between the Luo and the Kikuyu), Mwai Kibaki was Kikuyu.

Kikuyus are the largest ethnic group (23%) - that is not large enough for an absolute majority. Long years of Kikuyu rule meant that other ethnic groups were marginalised.

Odinga comes from the next largest ethnic group the Luos. Since independence there has been friction between the Luo and the Kikuyu. Odinga put together a coalition of other ethnic groups to defeat Kibaki in the last elections. The results were rigged and all hell let loose.

(When elections are rigged in Africa, violence ALWAYS follows e.g. - Nigeria, Congo, Zimbabwe).

When africans burn other africans inside Churches, Islam is not always the cause. (Afterall, the Hutus massacred the Tutsis within Church premises even though both groups were nominally christian).

If you know anything about Kenyan history, you will understand that the Kikuyus did quite a bit of blood letting in the past and that Africans don’t forget such things in a hurry.

This is the legacy of British rule. The British insisted on putting people who had little in common together first to ‘divide and rule’ and second to save administrative costs. (Most of World’s trouble spots are ex-British colonies - and that is not a coincidence).


41 posted on 03/29/2008 3:02:44 PM PDT by KingJaja
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To: wtc911

If you think a nation (Kenya) that is 90% Christian has plans of imposing Shari’a, then you must think that Kenyans are stupid.

Remember that the US embassy bombings took place in Tanzania and Kenya. Do you think that Kenyans are stupid enough to have forgotten those bombings?

Africa is one of the few places where Muslims don’t like to mess around with Christians when Christians are the clear majority - trust me on that.


42 posted on 03/29/2008 3:11:01 PM PDT by KingJaja
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To: KingJaja
If we concentrate only on what we know, how will we learn?

You are right about Kenyan being mostly Christian (and as you say, certainly more than Britain - or most any other European nation these days, sans Vatican City).

While the Kenyan thing is interesting, I find the Somali connection more so. Remember the photo of Hussein in Muslim garb that floated around the net a while back? It appears it was not Kenyan garb, but Somali Muslim garb - and it would appear that Somali Muslims tend to be a radical Muslim's radical Muslim.

Given Hussein's childhood education in Islam, reportedly at a Madrasa (Wahabi?), his connections with these Muslims, and with Islamic Muslims generally, his bid for the US Presidency is very disturbing in light of Islam's goal of "world domination." In thinking about this let us not forget the role of lying to non-Muslims to further Islam and the role of the sleeper cell. According to your own statements you are fairly cognizant of the facts on the ground in that region, so I ask - would you be willing to provide your take on the following?

I really want to understand this thing, Hussein's relationship with this region - the future of my country, the United States of America, land of the free, is at stake.

The following is from sweetness-light.com:

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[Note: please see the two updates posted at the bottom of the article.]

A poster named “Bannie” at Free Republic has noted a photo that appeared in the February 4, 2008 edition of the notoriously unreliable supermarket tabloid, the National Examiner:

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It appeared in the following National Examiner article:

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The resident “experts” at Free Republic are pronouncing this a photoshopped fake. But, oddly enough, there are photographs of Mr. Obama during his (taxpayer funded) trip to Kenya in August 2006, where he is wearing what would appear to be the same red shirt, khaki pants and wristwatch:

US Senator Barack Obama standing next to a camel

[BBC caption:] In Kenya on Sunday [August 27, 2006], US Senator Barack Obama on a visit to his late father’s homeland, is pictured with a camel at an animal market in Wajir, an area hit by a severe drought.

Surely there is some perfectly innocent explanation as to why Mr. Obama felt obligated to get himself done up in Muslim-like gear, if indeed he did.

But why haven’t we seen that photograph until now?

Indeed, there was even a movie made to document Mr. Obama’s historic (taxpayer funded) trip to his father’s homeland. (Again, note the red shirt):

From the Chicago Tribune:

Obama doc is photo op, not propaganda

Filmmakers show senator wooing Africans like primary voters

January 30, 2008
BY BILL STAMETS

In the documentary “Senator Obama Goes to Africa,” Chicago co-producers Bob Hercules and Keith Walker document the presidential candidate’s August 2006 trip overseas…

Hercules wished for more access to Obama. He got it later when Chicago political consultant David Axelrod hired him and Walker to make two up-close Obama videos that were posted on www.barackobama.com…

The Illinois Democrat sounds like he’s running for office in Africa, not America. “The people of the United States know what wonderful people the Kenyan people are,” Obama tells Kenyans. Long before the Dec. 27, 2007, presidential elections that led to bloodshed, he warned: “Corruption erodes the state from the inside, sickening the justice system until there’s no justice to be found, poisoning the police forces.”

Tribal tensions are not apparent in Obama’s visit to Kisumu, where he and his wife, Michelle, took AIDS tests. “I hope the people of Kenya will see us role models,” says Michelle Obama. Photo-ops occur at the grave of Obama’s father in Kisumu and during a visit with his Kenyan grandmother…

If this low-key documentary is not pro-Obama, its funders are. The credits list six individuals and two companies whose contributions to Obama’s campaign, according to FEC data aggregated at www.politicalbase.com, now total $76,215.

One suspects the scene portrayed in the National Examiner, if it happened, was not included in the movie.

 Update!

Here is an earlier posting of the photograph at Han-Geeska Afrika Onlline:

[Geeska Afrika caption:] U.S. Senator Barack Obama, right, is dressed as a Somali Elder by Sheikh Mahmed Hassan, left, during his visit to Wajir, a rural area in northeastern Kenya, near the borders with Somalia and Ethiopia. The area is at the epicenter of a severe drought that has hit the Horn of Africa region, after erratic and insufficient rains during the April-June season

So it isn’t a faked photograph after all.

Hmmmm.

 Update!

Several people have emailed me about the following post from Rick Moran at the Right Wing Nut House:

ENOUGH WITH ALL OF THIS “OBAMA IS A MOOSLIM” CRAP

… Well, today conservative stupidity regarding Obama and his supposed ties to Islam hit paydirt – as in generating a ten on the laugh-o-meter. Evidently, the probable next president of the United States was caught in flagrante dilecto, dressed to the nines in what appears to be some kind of native garb (probably Kenyan) and with a (gasp!) turban on his head. To some of my unschooled, ignorant conservative friends, this is further proof that if we elect Obama president, there will be a department of Sharia Affairs.

The truth as Jim Hoft (via Sweetness and Light) shows, is a little less dramatic. The costume is that of a Kenyan tribal elder…

Well, Mr. Moran was kind enough to say that we revealed the truth on the issue. And I am usually an admirer of Rick’s writings, especially at the great American Thinker website.

But apparently he didn’t read the caption very carefully, and he does not seem to be as aware as might be of the situation on the ground in the area.

According to the photo’s caption, what Mr. Obama is wearing is NOT a Kenyan elder’s garb, but a Somali elder’s garb. This is quite an important difference, especially in view of the fact that Kenya is 90% Christian and Somalia is 100% Sunni Muslim.

Indeed, here is a photograph of what is considered “traditional dress” in Kenya, from MSN Encarta:

These members of a Nilotic tribe in Samburu, Kenya, are wearing traditional clothing. The men wear solid bright red fabrics; the women have vivid designs on their clothing and collars made of roped beads. Jewelry plays an important role in traditional African dress.

(Note again that during his visit Mr. Obama did wear a solid bright red shirt, which is the traditional color for male dress in Nigeria.)

Furthermore, Mr. Obama is descended on his father’s side from the Luo tribe. Their traditional costumes are described this way in Wikipedia:


Luo (Kenya and Tanzania)

… Adamson (1967) commented that Luos clad in their traditional costumes and ornaments deserve their reputation as the most picturesque people in Kenya. During most of their performances the Luo wore costumes and decorated themselves not only to appear beautiful but also to enhance their movements.

These costumes included sisal skirts (owalo), beads (Ombulu / tigo) worn around the neck and waist and red or white clay were used by the ladies. The men’s costumes included kuodi or chieno a skin warn from the shoulders or from the waist respectively to cover their nakedness. Ligisa the headgear, shield and spear, reed hats, clubs among others. All these costumes and ornaments were made from locally available materials…

So despite claims to the contrary, Mr. Obama was not wearing the traditional raiments of his father’s tribe in the photograph in question.

Indeed, the caption also notes that Mr. Obama is being “dressed” by a Muslim sheik by the name of Hassan. (As in Hassan Nasrallah.)

Moreover, the town Obama was in, his father’s hometown of Wajir, is the capital of the Wajir District in Kenya’s North Eastern Province.

The North Eastern Province is home to almost all of the Muslims in Kenya, who are almost all Somalis or of Somali ancestry. And indeed, Mr. Obama’s father was himself a Muslim and part (maybe half) Somali.

Again, from Wikipedia:

North Eastern Province

The North Eastern Province of Kenya, bordering Somalia, is one of Kenya’s seven administrative provinces outside Nairobi. The provincial capital is the town of Garissa, near Coast Province…

Formerly known as the Northern Frontier District, the North Eastern Province covers most of northeastern Kenya and is inhabited by pastoralist communities. The prominent ethnic group is Somali people. There have been many large Refugee camps in the area, with most refugees from Somalia.

For further elucidation, compare these two maps:

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Note that the “Islamist Resistance” (the dark green areas in the lower map) is mostly ensconced down next to Kenya’s eastern border, abutting (and no doubt overlapping) the North Eastern Province.

The “Islamist Resistance” in Somalia are the worst of the worst extremist there. And given how extreme the populace is in general, that is saying something.

As we know, more than a thousand people have been killed recently in fighting over the last election in Kenya — which was in no small part a matter of the position Muslims would hold in that country.

The Muslim angle is heightened by the promises that the losing candidate, Mr. Raila Odinga, is alleged to have made to representatives of the Kenyan Muslims. (A point referenced in the National Examiner’s article.)

And again, on top of all of this, we have Mr. Obama’s own self-professed power as a symbol, a “role model” in Kenya, where is treated like a national treasure.

43 posted on 03/29/2008 3:23:19 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Write in: Fred Thompson)
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To: tsali

I agree, the Clinton’s smell.

And really bad.


44 posted on 03/29/2008 3:28:18 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam. TWP VRWC)
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To: wtc911

FYI.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1975930/replies?c=219

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963475/replies?c=18

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1978697/replies?c=9


45 posted on 03/29/2008 3:33:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

excerpt:

Here is the truth about Mr. Obama’s name, and his father’s ancestors:

True Negro tribal members of western Kenya where his father was born have Christian names, not Arabic. His father’s decision to name him with an Arabic name is a matter of his father establishing his ethnic identity in Africa - it is done deliberately to separate him from the African tribes. He may live among them, but he is not one of them. His father’s message is that he is Arabic, not Negro.

Many will find these truths unsettling. I’m often asked, “But I thought his father was Kenyan. How could Mr. Obama not be African-American, how could his ethnic composition be so Arabic?”

The definitive clue to that answer is to look at his name, his father’s name, and the names of all his ancestors on his father’s side. They are all Arabic.

Researching his roots reveal that on his father’s side, he is descended from Arab slave traders. They operated under an extended grant from Queen Victoria, who gave them the right to continue the slave trade in exchange for helping the British defeat the Madhi Army in southern Sudan and the Upper Nile region. Funny how circular is history; now the British again face the Madhi Army, albeit this time Shiite, not Sunni, as in nineteenth century Sudan.

But telling America’s black community that while their ancestors were breaking the shackles of slavery, Mr. Obama’s ancestors were placing those shackles upon their wrists would hardly play as an Oprah Winfrey best-seller.

Being the son of a poor Kenyan goat-herder plays much better than being the son of a highly placed Arab-African who operated at the top of the Kenyan government following his education at Columbia...


46 posted on 03/29/2008 3:40:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

He will explain that “parts is parts”, or maybe “It’s what’s for dinner!”


47 posted on 03/29/2008 3:48:41 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: the anti-liberal

With all due respect, the report from the examiner is BS. There is a lot sloppy reporting coming from the American media and the reporting about Africa extremely bad.

First, there are ethnic Somalis in Kenya. Second, the dress you claimed was traditional Kenyan garb was Masai dress. The Masais are every bit a minority in Kenya as the Somalis.

There is a very strong Arabic/Muslim influence on the east African coast. The dominant language on the East African coast is Swahili (a hybrid of local African languages and Arabic). Many former muslims in East Africa are now Christians, but one cannot deny a thousand year history of contact with the Arabs.

Obama did not attend a Madrassa in Indonesia. He went to a normal Indonesian school. I went to school using the old British colonial system (similar to that used in Indonesia, I suspect). In predominantly Christian areas, Bible Knowledge is taught while in predominantly Muslim areas, Islamic Religious Knowledge (IRK) is taught. It is possible that Obama like ALL other kids must have learnt IRK.

Now IRK is an inconsequential part of the syllabus (usually one hour per week).

The problem with most Americans is that you have lived in a predominantly Christian country and have no experience of dealing with other religious experiences or cultures.

Africa has a thousand year history with Islam. If you are from anywhere near the East Coast of Africa or a few hundred miles from the Sahara you definitely will not be far some form of Islamic heritage/history. Christians in parts of Africa go by names such as Ayuba (Job), Istifanus (Stephen), Isiaku (Isaac), Ibrahim (Abraham), Bitrus (Peter), Boulos (Paul), Yohanna (John), Isa/Yisa (Jesus), Musa (Moses), Yakubu (Jacob), Dauda/Daoud (David). They are fiercely Christian but their names show some muslim heritage.

Kenya is on the East Coast of Africa, so virtually all Kenyans have some historically contact with Arabs/Islam.

Now if you want to do something useful, read Jeremiah Wrights sermons. You are merely wasting time attacking his African/Indonesian heritage. Rev. Wrights sermons are a gold mine (if you understand what I mean).


48 posted on 03/29/2008 3:55:05 PM PDT by KingJaja
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; glock rocks; SouthTexas; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; editor-surveyor; ...

Why am I speechless...


49 posted on 03/29/2008 3:59:25 PM PDT by tubebender ("Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.")
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To: Fred Nerks

Nonsense on many fronts.

If we start to seperate whose ancestors were are were not slave traders - we won’t be left with many people in Africa.

Second, about 40% of the slaves from West Africa were originally muslims. (The Mandinka for example were predominantly muslim). As far back as the thirteenth century, Mansa Musa (a ruler of the Mali empire) went to Mecca for Hajj.

Please stick to what you know. If you don’t know much about Africa, stick to American topics.


50 posted on 03/29/2008 4:00:33 PM PDT by KingJaja
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Thanks for the information. Good grief!

I have a feeling there is still a lot more
we don’t even know about yet.


51 posted on 03/29/2008 4:11:08 PM PDT by Katarina
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To: KingJaja
Please stick to what you know. If you don’t know much about Africa, stick to American topics.

I'm an Australian and I will post whatever I find relevant to the subject under discussion.

52 posted on 03/29/2008 4:21:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Katarina

FReeper Beckwith compiled the obama file:

http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm


53 posted on 03/29/2008 4:23:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Does he prefer boiling them or friars?


54 posted on 03/29/2008 4:28:15 PM PDT by Cuchulain ("...never treat with the enemy; never surrender to his mercy, but fight to the finish.")
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To: Fred Nerks

Hmmmm no ... he’s pretty well got most if not all the facts correct. You post crap form the Examiner and we are supposed to take you seriously.

Do you have anything from WorldNetDaily you’d like to throw in?

He told you, look to the Wright angle attack what you know. Other than that, you come off poorly.


55 posted on 03/29/2008 4:28:21 PM PDT by JNL (uot)
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To: KingJaja
Please. do not. get involved in ethnic politics in Africa

Hey kajaba, stfu...

56 posted on 03/29/2008 4:30:01 PM PDT by The Forgotten Man (He works, he votes, generally he prays--but he always pays....)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

went to my tax man today. On the way out the owner Mario said, “ Pleasure to see you again this year. AND PLEASE, DO NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!


57 posted on 03/29/2008 4:30:55 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

went to my tax man today. On the way out the owner Mario said, “ Pleasure to see you again this year. AND PLEASE, DO NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!”


58 posted on 03/29/2008 4:31:18 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: JNL
Other than that, you come off poorly.

Let me repeat myself: I'm an Australian and I will post whatever I find relevant to the subject under discussion.

59 posted on 03/29/2008 4:40:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (a fair dinkum aussie)
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To: SatinDoll

Can you show us your original post?


60 posted on 03/29/2008 4:49:43 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Rope, Tree & Traitor; Some Assembly Required || Gun Control Means Never Having To Say I Missed You)
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