Who Is This Man With Obama?

Soda Head ^ | Jan 31, 2008 | Staff

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Who is Odinga? Odinga is Obama's cousin. Odinga and Obama are from the same Kenyan Luo tribe. Odinga supporters are the people that are burning Christians alive, trapped inside churches ... Most of Odinga's fanatical followers are radical islamists who have pushed for Islamic Sharia Law...

... In 2006, Obama took a trip to Kenya and voiced his support for his fellow tribesman and political ally, Odinga.

Obama also directly attacked the sitting Kenyan leadership (Kibaki) calling them 'corrupt'...

... Odinga is the cat that ran on the socialist democrat ticket in Kenya and lost to sitting president Kibaki.

... Odinga has now made a deal for support with Muslim fundamentalists. A photograph copy of a Memorandum of Understanding, dated and signed on August 29, 2007, between Raila Odinga and Sheikh Abdullah Abi, chiarman of the National Muslim Leaders Forum of Kenya...

http://eakenya.org/newsevents/article.htm?id=8

Here is a summary on the agreement which was signed:

* It pledges the support of Kenyan Moslems for Raila's election. In return, as President of Kenya, Raila, agrees to 14 actions, listed a) through n) on page 2.

* Within 6 months rewrite the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Sharia as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared regions...

[TigersEye]

I want balance. If you’re going to talk about Odinga at least talk about Kibaki.

Why? That is irrelevant to American politics. We don't give a rat's patoot about Kenyan politics as its own issue. If Obama had supported Kibaki our issue would be the same. (Providing Kibaki is what you say he is.) All that matters is that Obama gave support to a candidate that promoted Sharia law and whose supporters went on a murderous rampage. In your own words "Odinga is an SOB who would do anything (including murder) to get elected." Obama supported him, end of story.

[KingJaja]

Is that document true or fake?

[GVnana]

You tell me!

[TigersEye]

You cannot talk about Marxism, Communism or Capitalism in societies in which the majority of the population depends on subsistence agriculture and is illiterate / untouched by outside influence.

Like 19th Century Russia? Like Mao's China?

[wtc911]

You cannot talk about Marxism, Communism or Capitalism in societies in which the majority of the population depends on subsistence agriculture and is illiterate / untouched by outside influence.

_____________________________________________________

Nice try but I doubt that even you believe that the marxism that has plagued African politics is centered in the illiterate masses. You know full well that it is the elite, like your boy Odinga, who had the luxury of a fine (and free) Communist education. Do you think that Odinga named his son for Fidel Castro on a whim? Of course not.

[KingJaja]

On second thoughts that is a very worrying document.

[Calpernia]

>>>Luo (Kenya and Tanzania)<<<

Tanzania's connection to AQ and the 'Blood Diamond' Trade is one of the last articles Danny Pearl did before he was kidnapped and beheaded.

It is just amazing (sarc) how many politicians have since shown to have connections to this too.

Blood diamonds, also see added comments.

[TigersEye]

On second thoughts that is a very worrying document.

It should be. It's quite a melding of Marxism and Sharia law. And all of that is promised to be implemented within six months of electing Odinga? What would the next step be?

[GVnana]

http://eakenya.org/newsevents/article.htm?id=8

You bet it is.

[TigersEye]

Don’t worry I’m not buying any of it. On the bright side; FR must be pretty important. We have numerous ChiCom apologists/agents and apparently communist apologists from around the world. We must be making too much sense around here. ; )

[KingJaja]

Africa’s problem is not with political creeds but with tribalism and a bad leadership.

As far as I can recall, only one of Africa’s major conflicts has been ideological based (i.e between Dos Santos’s MPLA and Savimbi’s UNITA). The rest have been tribal (Whites versus indigenous peoples: Rhodesia, Namibia and South Africa).(Inter-tribal: Sierra Leone, Rwanda, Burundi, Biafra, Liberia, Darfur) or religious (Sudanese Civil War).

[KingJaja]

Nice try but I doubt that even you believe that the marxism that has plagued African politics is centered in the illiterate masses. You know full well that it is the elite, like your boy Odinga, who had the luxury of a fine (and free) Communist education. Do you think that Odinga named his son for Fidel Castro on a whim? Of course not. Unfortunately, Fidel Castro is much more popular than Reagan and Thatcher on the African continent. The reason is because while Reagan was largely silent on apartheid, Fidel Castro openly supported the anti-apartheid fighters like Mandela. However, the most popular US presidents / ex-presidents are George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Please tell Obama to stop this nonsense. That ius who ou should be saying this to, not me.

Please tell Obama to stay out of Kenyan politics, and have nothing to do with one of his relatives - Odinga - so I and others wont have to tell people about this.

Your concentration on this is misplaced.

So...get to it.

[Laissez-faire capitalist]

Please. do not. tell me what to do. That is not your right... Remember this....

And tell Obama to not get involved in ethnic politics...if you want to tell someone - the right one - Obama.

[Fred Nerks]

He wants us to 'trust' him. He wants us to believe that Marxism, Communism, Socialism just don't exist in Africa, that all politics are tribal.

He wants us to look the other way.....

Why?

see choice of namesake, post#113

[wtc911]

No, the reason Odinga named his kid after Fidel had nothing to do with Reagan or Thatcher. Your boy is a stone cold marxist and you can't run from it.

The fact that your other boy, Obama, actively campaigned for him is the problem that we get and that you would like us to ignore.

We (you excluded) know a few simple truths. Among them is the fact that communism, marxism, socialism, any Red 'ism' is evil and any fools who ever fell into its trap has suffered the loss of whatever personal liberties they may have had.

You may continue to champion communists here but we know your game, we've seen your type before.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1979967/posts

The Obama File (THE MOTHERLOAD ON BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!)
Freedom’s Enemies ^ | Beckwith

[KingJaja]

When did I ever champion communists?

I see the world in shades of gray. Not everything Milton Friedman said was right and not everything the Fabians said was wrong. The progressive era in the US led to some good ideas, so the FDR era and so did the Reagan era.

I am not a communist, socialist or a social democrat. I am a pragmatic realist conservative.

[Candor7]

This is the legacy of British rule. The British insisted on putting people who had little in common together first to ‘divide and rule’ and second to save administrative costs. (Most of World’s trouble spots are ex-British colonies - and that is not a coincidence).>>>>>>>>>>>>

This statement is not supported by evidence. Its actually propaganda.Its not the British who should be blamed for all the evils that have befallen many of their former colonies, thats a neocolonial black nationalist myth, perpetrated by Huey Newton politicians who dwell in the back slums of Chicago. Basically the real reason for the blood lettings and fracas in Kenya is simply that the Kenyan tribes prefer to govern Kenya in the tribal way. A parallel democratic remnant exists for form, and for consensual decision making, but the real exercise of power is done via the ancient tribal ways.

Obama enters Kenya in August of 2006 with his own neocolonial schtick, and preaches to the Kenyan "savages" about how to overthrow the "corrupt" government. This is every bit as colonialist as the British were , and the Muslim Slavers of Yemen before them. He doesn't even realize the tribal system of politics would necessitate a blood letting with such public fanning of passion and obvious ignorance of the way that tribal politics work.He truly was a stooge. Thus the Luo go on a rampage because the election was won by cheating? Hell, every election ever held in Kenya has involved cheating, but still a stable government was always produced, more stable than any other in Africa. Of course, that does not count in Obamas book, nor in Odingas, because their agenda is to create unstability, not to bring stability to Kenya.

Obama and Odinga mean to do one thing: bring Kenya into a new order via the Muslim Council which will align Kenya with the Sudan and Somalia, and eventually bring Egypt into the radical Muslim fold, and then combine with other nations to take Mecca away from the House of Saud, bringing the Arab and Black races into World caliphate power and subjecting the white race to the overdue punishment history requires?

As to the economy , Odinga's and Obama's goal is to run the white Europeans and Jews out of the country, especially those on the Mombassa Coast in the Jewish owned resorts there. Obamas policy and Odingas for Kenya is essentially nationalist and racist. They do not want to move along to get along in the tribal way which has proven successful in Kenya.

If Odinga comes into power in Kenya, according to Obama's black nationalist political lights, Kenya will become absolutely unstable, and join those other impoverished nations of Africa where women can't walk down the street without paying a pussy toll to the local thugs, and kids starve, and AIDS is rampant.

Thats what Obama and his neocolonialist black power US bwana politics mean for Kenya. The Luo genocide is merely a forecast of what will come should Odinga attain power in Kenya.

Recently the tribal remedy of power sharing has been applied for the sake of order in Kenya. This happened only after Odinga realized that no amount of blood letting caused by the Luo would shake the government of Kenya, and would merely color Odinga with the same paint as that of Idi Amin, justly deserved I might add.

So like most liberal trolls , you think there is a simple answer to complex tribal balances of power, which require long term intermarriage and trust, coeducation, and friendship, for the tribal system to work, not American based neocolonial black power politics.

Yes, go on and blame the British, those allegedly dirty white ba$tard colonialists who ruined Kenya. And in the same breath you can also blame the neocolonialist Black power mongerer, Barrak Obama. If you do not, then obviously you can't say anything about the British, for both they and Obama are cast from the same colonialist mold , both knowing little or nothing of the tribal system of politics in Kenya, and caring nothing for the very structures that have kept Kenya stable and economically viable ahead of most African nations.

A pox on Obama and on Odiga. Perhaps they both together should go again to Nairobi to speak in public, but the ancient tribal ways are waiting, and their heads may adorn the tips of spears if they try that again.

And Obama in the USA? If he tries his black nationalist power politics schtick here, as he did in Kenya, he will be pushing the exit button to US politics, and joining Rev. Wright in the looney bin of US culture, where BTW, Obama truly does belong. He just hides it well so far, but the slick is wearing thin, and soon we will see Obama's true face: that of a punk black nationalist with very narrow minded racist views about Americans in general. Too bad he never outgrew Hewy Newton. McCain will mop the floor of America with him.

May the Kikuyu continue their peaceful reign in Kenya, and continue to lead Kenyan rulership in the ancient tribal ways, and may the gods of Mt. Kenya keep that rule peaceful. Kenya in its essence is far from the Western World, and that is as it should be.

Jambo! Kwaheri mizuri bwana.

[KingJaja]

You know I am not going to respond to that.