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1 posted on 03/27/2008 4:40:23 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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“..if you have seen the Father you have seen me..”

I highly suspect Obama’s theology, and do not believe he is a “Christian” in the traditional sense!


51 posted on 03/27/2008 5:30:51 PM PDT by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

What a surprise.
/sarcasm


54 posted on 03/27/2008 5:31:55 PM PDT by ladyinred
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I'll say that Obama's statements on this subject mirror my own beliefs:

The Lord’s church is spread over the whole globe, and therefore is universal. All are in it who live a good life according to their own religious belief. - HH 328 E Swedenborg.

I really feel sorry for the so called 'Christians' on this thread who actually post such shameful nonsense. Jesus Christ is God. Some may realize this later rather than sooner.

58 posted on 03/27/2008 5:35:02 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Nothin' worse than a leaky dame)
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For instance, you could kill an apostate and spend eternity with 72 virgins...


66 posted on 03/27/2008 5:42:55 PM PDT by glorgau
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Obama goes to a church that hates white people. What? Did you expect those fools to get the Gospel right?


95 posted on 03/27/2008 6:24:26 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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...but then Obama also believes in abortion, including partial birth abortion.

Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

99 posted on 03/27/2008 6:30:02 PM PDT by The Brush
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Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama suggested Wednesday that Jesus Christ is not the only way to heaven during a campaign event in North Carolina.

I heard Michael Medved saying the same thing.

They better get straightened out or they might be burning in hell together.

109 posted on 03/27/2008 6:51:42 PM PDT by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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During his response on Wednesday, Obama praised his church, Trinity United Church of Christ, especially its choir, and said it was very warm and welcoming and is like any other church in America in that it exists to praise God.

Half truth there- He ommited the part where his church damns whitey for the suffering of blacks.

124 posted on 03/27/2008 7:12:39 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (The Right To Take Life is NOT a Constitutional "Liberty" protected by the 14th Amendment)
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Before experiencing what could commonly be called a “born-again” experience I may have thought the same thing. There remains ONE way to get to heaven (as far as any human could know FOR SURE) — through accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior! Not through deeds alone!

Whether God, in His infinite wisdom will allow others to enter in - that’s up to Him obviously. But, according to the Bible, the way, the truth, and LIFE are through Jesus alone...


146 posted on 03/27/2008 7:36:39 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The Liberty Rocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ also see; http://www.libertyrocks.us)
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Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama suggested Wednesday that Jesus Christ is not the only way to heaven during a campaign event in North Carolina.

Then he is not a Christian at all. Belief that He is the only path is one of two things required for salvation. The other is acceptance. Skip either and you're not a Christian.

149 posted on 03/27/2008 7:40:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (su - | echo "All your " | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r | echo "belong to us")
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Ping...

ATTN ALL: I have just started (tonight 3/27) a new ping list for Obama/Wright Issues. (keyword: ObamaWrightList).

If you would like to be included in this list, please reply to this post, or send me a Freepmail.

This will most likely be a high-volume list, but hopefully it will be VERY short-lived (as hopefully Obama will be out on his ear very soon!).
150 posted on 03/27/2008 7:40:40 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The Liberty Rocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ also see; http://www.libertyrocks.us)
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Okay, step back everyone. Don’t fall into the ever-deepening hole Obama is digging for himself.

It is not surprising he believes incorrect doctrine about his faith, given his pastor.

If and when you believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Savior and Lord, you become a child of God (adopted into the family of God solely because of the merits of Christ).

All people are creations of God. We are all ‘persons’ made in the image of God. Those that receive Christ as Lord and Savior become children of God. It has nothing to do with non-believers living by some personal moral code or not.


157 posted on 03/27/2008 7:51:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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But he also believes Jews and Muslims and non-believers who live moral lives are as much “children of God” as he is, according to The Associated Press.

Methinks Mooslim morals and Christian morals might be just a tad bit different Barack ol'buddy ol' pal.........

"Allahu Akbar!"

167 posted on 03/27/2008 8:40:14 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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Obama or anyone else who says there is some other way to be saved and be accepted in heaven after physical death other than by grace through faith in the sacrificial, atoning death of God the Son on the cross and His bodily resurrection by God the Father through the power of God the Holy Spirit has a false and unbiblical view of Christianity.

Jesus said;

""I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

The Apostle Paul wrote under divine inspiration;

"That is, the word of faith which we preach: that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

That divinely inspired scripture settles the matter. No other religion or creed can offer a sinner a pardon for his or her sin, and only a perfect, sinless man or woman can enter into Heaven. On the cross every sin of the believer was placed on Jesus and the death penalty for the believer's sin was paid by Him in His death. To complete the transaction His perfect righteousness was reckoned to the believers account at the moment he or she came to belief in and acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and placed his or her faith in Him and Him alone for salvation.

Only the divine, sinless Son of God's infinite sacrifice could pay the penalty of eternal death for a believer's sin, and only by having His perfect, sinless, righteousness applied to the believer's account can he or she appear before God the Father's judgment seat as pure and sinless as Jesus Himself.

I don't want Obama to be our president but I do want him to become a true believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and trust in Him and Him alone for his salvation, and I pray that he will become a believer at some point before he leaves this earthly phase of his life.

176 posted on 03/27/2008 11:37:17 PM PDT by epow (Obama for President, in your heart you know he's the Wright's man for the job.)
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This is Oprah’s stand, as well. She is influencing millions of people in her religious views.


180 posted on 03/28/2008 12:07:13 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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If Obama doesn’t believe that we are all sinners in need of a Savior, he may very well not be saved.


217 posted on 03/28/2008 11:39:22 AM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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I think Obama thinks that if you vote for him you will surely go to heaven.

that is what this really comes down to as far as he is concerned.

As for me I know I need Jesus.

Without a doubt!

233 posted on 03/29/2008 12:25:57 AM PDT by right way right
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