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Democrats won’t fracture
Picayune Item ^ | Mar 24, 2008 | Morton Kondracke

Posted on 03/24/2008 8:35:57 AM PDT by fightinJAG

The rough treatment Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is giving Sen. Barack Obama may be good, real-world training if he becomes the Democratic presidential nominee and gets elected, but in the meantime she’s helping Republican Sen. John McCain.

She may well have cut an actual campaign ad for McCain when she said at a national security event last week, "Sen. McCain has a lifetime of experience. I have a lifetime of experience. And Sen. Obama made one speech in 2002."

McCain also could reprise Clinton’s "red phone" ad in a campaign against Obama — but then, he could also use the Obama campaign’s lengthy knockdown of Clinton’s claims of extensive foreign-policy experience if she somehow wrests the nomination from him.

Meanwhile, former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro’s, D-N.Y., jibe that Obama would not be a presidential contender if he weren’t a black male — while arguably true — was designed to amplify racial polarization in the Democratic Party and could do so in the general election, as well.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; hillary; kondracke; obama
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1 posted on 03/24/2008 8:35:57 AM PDT by fightinJAG
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To: fightinJAG

Hillary and Obama are taking too many hits to stay in the race.

Look for the Dems to punt both and go with Al Gore at their Denver DNC convention.


2 posted on 03/24/2008 8:38:08 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: fightinJAG

Hillary’s refusal to get out of the race now that she is mathematically eliminated is destroying the DEM party....pass the popcorn.


3 posted on 03/24/2008 8:39:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Southack

I agree. Al Gore is getting his acceptance speech out of the lock box.


4 posted on 03/24/2008 8:41:59 AM PDT by Space Moose
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To: fightinJAG

The Clintons have 80 years between them invested in the Democratic party.

The expected payback to them is the POTUS nomination for Hillary.

If she doesn’t get it - the Clintons will destroy the Democratic party. More power to them I say.


5 posted on 03/24/2008 8:43:02 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: fightinJAG
Democrats won’t fracture

Nope they're armored in their own unflinching stupidity. (Let's do a chant "Change change change" in a hip hop beat for Obama that really shows how qualified he is to head the executive branch of governemnt.)

6 posted on 03/24/2008 8:43:46 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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Other than confidently stating that Hillary WILL give the veep spot to Obama and that Obama WILL accept, Mort really doesn’t go into detail as to just why the dems won’t come apart.

I will admit it would be a piece with decades of conditioned obedience. Bill & Hill kicked their sacred minorities (feminists, gays, unions, blacks) in the teeth numerous times during their years in power (Monica, gays-in-the-military, NAFTA, Welfare Reform) and always, after some bucking and snorting they came crawling back to lick “massa’s” boots, but there’s a first time for everything and I really can’t see blacks turning out in significant numbers for Mizz Hillary even if she has Obama as her lawn jockey going into the general.


7 posted on 03/24/2008 8:45:23 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: fightinJAG
My guess is that, when all is said and done, the Democratic Party won’t hopelessly fracture regardless of who finally gets nominated. If it’s Clinton, she’ll likely be forced to offer the veep spot to Obama to placate African-Americans and young voters.

I disagree.

The only way that Hillary wins this is if she pulls a fast one with the Super-delegates and if she does, the Democrats can say goodby to the Black and youth vote.

Obama is not going into the Convention leading in the pledged delegates and popular vote and have Hillary snatch it from him and then take second spot on the ticket!

No matter who wins this, the Democrats are going to have at least 25% of each group defecting to vote against the candidate, no matter how much each candidate attempts to reconcile.

We haven't even gotten into April yet, wait until we are into June and if Hillary is still running see how bitter Obama's people are going to be.

It looks like Hillary is setting up Obama for defeat so she can run again in 2012.

The longer this goes, the more fractured the Democrats are going to become.

Each side had a chance for a historical first and whoever loses that chance is going to be very bitter about it.

Finally, McCain doesn't threaten the Democrats as would someone who is more conservative.

So, I don't see a big problem with many Democrats voting for him as a way to get Hillary another shot in 2012, or Blacks just staying home in protest if Obama is robbed.

8 posted on 03/24/2008 8:45:40 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Southack

It seems you must really, really, really believe Gore is going to be the one...’cause you keep posting it over & over & over.


9 posted on 03/24/2008 8:45:56 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (Nope. No capital letters for the clintons, bill or hill, ever again.)
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To: Southack

Naaaaah.


10 posted on 03/24/2008 8:48:42 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: top 2 toe red

How ‘bout that!


11 posted on 03/24/2008 8:50:57 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: fightinJAG
I'm of the opinion that if Hilary does somehow manage to win the nomination, every Freeper should go to every Obama supporter they can find and say .... “See, Hilary is really all about power”.
12 posted on 03/24/2008 8:51:18 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: fightinJAG

Snort. Like Kondracke would know. Sometimes I wonder how someone as clueless as he is can get—and keep—a job on a cable news show as a commentator.


13 posted on 03/24/2008 8:53:07 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: sinanju
Politicians have no shame. We all know that. But just before the rev. Wright stuff hit the news, the talk was that Hillary (clearly in second place) might offer the VP slot to Obama. He flat out refused, and scoffed at the whole idea.

Now, if she moves up to #1 and if she again extends an offer to Obama, and if he actually accepts it, I would be amazed -- because Bill would be #2 in the regime. Obama would be the boy sent out for coffee and pastries when the big meetings come around. Obama knows that.

Still, because politicians have no shame, I giess Obama might accept it. But I think the GOP might have some fun with the concept.

14 posted on 03/24/2008 8:55:10 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Southack
Look for the Dems to punt both and go with Al Gore at their Denver DNC convention.

I wouldn't put it past the Democrat leadership to do something that silly. If they do, there will be riots, and all the Dem voters who have a bit of sanity left will end up voting for McCain.

15 posted on 03/24/2008 9:02:57 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: taxcontrol

Oh, I believe we should stage protests in every major municipality.

Stir it up, “Hillary stole the nomination” [from the young, hopeful, black guy]


16 posted on 03/24/2008 9:05:55 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Southack
Look for the Dems to punt both and go with Al Gore at their Denver DNC convention.

Nah. Gore is a loser. I'm hoping they'll nominate Juan McCain, and then the Republican Convention can start all over again and pick a decent candidate.

17 posted on 03/24/2008 9:16:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: fightinJAG
"Democrats won’t fracture"

?? They're ALREADY cracked!

18 posted on 03/24/2008 9:24:22 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Boycott Genocide. Boycott the Olympics.)
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To: from occupied ga
"(Let's do a chant 'Change change change" in a hip hop beat for Obama that really shows how qualified he is to head the executive branch of governemnt.)"

How about R&B? It's been running through my head off and on as I watch the First Black President's wife try to wrest power from the First Black Presidential candidate that the Clintons helped give a start to...

Chay-chay-CHAAAAAAANGE...

CHANGE of FOOO-ooools....

19 posted on 03/24/2008 9:27:48 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Boycott Genocide. Boycott the Olympics.)
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To: cake_crumb

“Democrats won’t fracture”

They will explode in a spectacular fireball.


20 posted on 03/24/2008 9:29:57 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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