Dude be lyin his @$$ off. But we votin for him anyway.
Posted on 03/14/2008 8:06:12 PM PDT by bahblahbah
So much controversy surrounds the church where Barack Obama has worshipped for two decades, the church whose retiring pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has stirred a storm with his words about power in America -- words which Obama himself decried today as "appalling.''
So much of the racial divide that remains in America is reopened with debates over these words, followed by renunciations and demands for even greater repudiation, that it's refreshing to hear some words of common sense rising through clouds of polarizing venom.
These words come from the congregation tonight. As the torch passes at Trinity United Church of Christ -- with the Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of the Rev. Otis Moss III, and with Obama repudiating the harshest words of the outgoing pastor while insisting that he and his family will remain as members -- another longtime member writes to the Swamp this evening to offer another perspective on the controversy that has enveloped the church.
"I am an African American who is very proud to say that I am a member of Trinity United Church of Christ,'' writes "BLH,'' in a posting on Obama and the retiring pastor below. "I have been a member for 30 years.
"I was in church that Sunday after 9/11. Our church seats about 8,000 people and we have 3 services; 7:30 a.m., 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Non-blacks do attend our church. However, we are located in a predominantly African-American neighborhood.
"On that Sunday people were standing against the wall and in the halls. People were still scared and shocked by what happened. Rev Wright's words may seem rascist to people who look at this world through rose colored glasses. You are the same people who think that the USA is the superior country and for some of you that white America is the superior race. That is sad.
"The United States of America became a powerful nation on the backs of free labor; slavery. 400 years later the effects of that, Jim Crow laws and discrimination still exist. You can see it in the disparity between our public schools and the widening gap in this country between the haves and have nots.
"I am well educated. I have a BS in Accounting for the Univesity of Illinois and I have an MBA from Northwestern University. However, in this country the fact that I am not white and male will limit my opportunities. This is not racist. This is the truth.
"Trinity United Church of Christ promotes the positiveness of being black in this country because everyday we see images that say otherwise. White churches don't have to do that because being white in this country is already seen as being a plus.
"You might not agree with what Rev. Wright said. I rarely agree with anyone 100 percent of the time. However, the USA has not been an innocent. It has not been "right" all of the time. The minute someone points that out they are seen as being un-American.''
Say Amen.
Dude be lyin his @$$ off. But we votin for him anyway.
He better go back and restudy his history. Some inconvenient truths need to be brought to the attention of these people:
1. Slavery was only used in a lesser populated half of this country’s states.
2. It also ceased nearly 150 years ago.
3. Tens of thousands of white men gave up their lives in the Civil War in order to free them.
4. It was the Repulican Party which was responsible for their liberation.
5. It was also the Democrats who were supporting the lynchings since then.
6. It was Eisenhower, a Republican, that ended segregation.
7. It was Johnson, a Democrat, who broke up their families and by giving them welfare.
I get so fed up with their historical ignorance.
Right. Much of the North was built by poor whites, like the Irish laborers who died like flies on projects like the Erie Canal, or the Yankees who built stone walls all over the mountains of New England after clearing the forests with hand tools, or the Italian masons who built many of the finer buildings, or the Welsh miners, or the Pennsylvania German farmers.
Was that sarcasm...im dense sometimes.
Beat me to it. Well said.
Yup.
Hitlary must be having mental orgasms over this latest development. ;-)
And Lincoln sent Irish immigrants of the Potato famine from the ships directly into the Civil War. Right there on the dock were the sheets to sign up and march off...by force.
There are those who say that Mitt Romney lost the nomination because of his church. Need I say more?
What amazes me is that this sort of speaking passes as religious fare in a church. I actually thought that churches existed to spread the good news that Jesus died for our sins - not to stand up and espouse hatred for others! Where is Mr. Wright’s forgiveness? As the Lord said, “Forgive our sins, as we forgive those who trespass against us.”
On a broader note, I have to say that the marriage of politics and the pulpit that apparently exists in so many churches is wrong - whether from the right or the left. The first church lived under Nero who used them as torches in his garden and for lion food. Yet, they managed to win converts through preaching the good news - not overthrowing the government. Many of Jesus’ followers deserted him when they figured out He did not come to be a political figure. It appears that many so called pastors today have left Jesus as well to try and effect political policy.
Also do not forget how much of this nation’s wealth, prosperity and infrastructure was lost forever as a direct result of the Civil War and the decades after - in large part to clear the scourge of slavery from within our borders. We did not emerge from the slavery/civil war as a massively prosperous powerhouse but a smoking hulk that had to pull together and pull ourselves up.
<< ...in this country the fact that I am not white and male will limit my opportunities. This is not racist. This is the truth. >>
What a stinking load of bullsh*t. I’m black too, but my parents and grand parents never taught me that I was born limited, and they never once let me buy that ticket.
As was much of the rest of the country. But "poor whites" aren't a victim group because their goal is to stop being poor whites and start living a good life and owning their own future, instead of complaining endlessly about the past hardships suffered by their ancestors in the old country.
As was much of the rest of the country. But "poor whites" aren't a victim group because their goal is to stop being poor whites and start living a good life and owning their own future, instead of complaining endlessly about the past hardships suffered by their ancestors in the old country.
Hillery and Carville have “let the cat out of the bag”. We offered you VP and you wouldn’t take it. Now seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee what you made us do.
Oops. Sorry for the double post. Finger twitch.
Its the engineers, the entrepreneurs, and craftsmen that REALLY built America, in all honesty, to say nothing of the soldiers who conquered it to begin with.
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