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Obama, Hillary in Civil War
NewsMax ^ | March 6, 2008 | Newsmax Analysis

Posted on 03/07/2008 10:45:08 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

With Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's decision to stay in the Democratic race to the bitter end, she has signaled a delegate fight all the way to the party's convention in Denver this August.

Both candidates appear in something of a stalemate.

Political strategists have concluded that Clinton cannot overcome Sen. Barack Obama's pledged delegate lead by winning additional primaries.

And despite his lead in electoral and delegate wins, Obama cannot seal his nomination without the support of the party's superdelegates.

Clinton's decision, after winning in Texas, Ohio and Rhode Island this week that she would not capitulate has opened up the first skirmishes in a looming Democratic civil war.

Already the intraparty battle -- described by the Boston Globe as "trench warfare" -- has cost the Democrats a whopping $275 million. The war has no end in sight and is shaping up to be a take-no-prisoner's battle.

Consider:

Cash: Both sides are now swimming with the ammunition that politicians need to wage war. Obama announced this week that he raised a stunning $55 million in February. Clinton hasn't matched those numbers, but she is playing catch-up. Since Tuesday, she raked in a cool $3 million.

'Monster' Hillary: Obama foreign policy aide Samantha Power told Britain's Scotsman that Clinton is "a monster . . . she is stooping to anything" and described her circle as being on the "warpath."

Ken Starr: Clinton's campaign lashed out at Obama Thursday, accusing him of becoming another "Ken Starr" because he promised to be more criticial of his opponent. The Obama campaign has complained Clinton has dragged her feet in releasing her tax returns and her documents as first lady.

Florida and Michigan. Both the Obama and Clinton camps are deadlocked on the matter of the Florida and Michigan delegates. Party Chairman Howard Dean says he wants a new vote in those states but he won't use party money to pay for it. That benefits Obama, because Clinton would have likely won those states in a re-vote. If Dean and the Obama can keep the current slate of Florida and Michigan delegates off the convention floor, Clinton's position is further undermined.

Black Revolt: Influential African-Americans like Donna Brazile, Al Sharpton and former Virginia Gov. Douglas Wilder are warning that the Democratic Party may be fractured and crippled if it does not abide by the will of the pledged delegates in picking the nominee.

Meanwhile, the fraternal struggle among Democrats may be netting Republicans support.

Former Bush strategist Karl Rove notes Thursday in The Wall Street Journal "the interesting electoral phenomenon is the emergence of the 'McCainicrats' -- Democrats backing Mr. McCain."

Rove continued: "In three recent polls, (Fox, LA Times/Bloomberg and Gallup), almost twice as many Democrats support Mr. McCain as Republicans support Mr. Obama. Three times as many Democrats support Mr. McCain as Republicans back Mrs. Clinton."


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To: karnage
But if Shrillary is the dim nom, they will stay home.

Did Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, having lost their own bids, fail to support the Demonrat nominee? No. These guys will back whomever their socialist fellow conspirators nominate. They would do so even if the Republicans nominated a black (remember Michael Steele in MD?).

41 posted on 03/07/2008 12:05:36 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Miss Didi
One of the HILLARY! troops


42 posted on 03/07/2008 12:06:22 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where the heck is all this money coming from?

Why cant we get good conservatives to raise big bucks like that?


43 posted on 03/07/2008 12:09:40 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: MattinNJ

“The RNC is crushing the DNC in fundraising “

Are they? Do you have numbers? I had not heard that.


44 posted on 03/07/2008 12:10:17 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: Miss Didi

PING for funny graphic “The Uncivil War”.


45 posted on 03/07/2008 12:11:03 PM PST by WOSG (William F Buckley: A great conservative, may he rest in peace.)
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To: WOSG

Thanks to Rush & the EIB. ;)


46 posted on 03/07/2008 12:14:08 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
'Monster' Hillary

": Obama foreign policy aide Samantha Power told Britain's Scotsman that Clinton is "a monster . . . she is stooping to anything" and described her circle as being on the "warpath."

Now who can argue with that?

Damn straight Hillzilla is on a rampaging "warpath", it's scorched earth time in Hillary Land.

She's bitter, angry, and she deserves this coronation. It's hers, baby!!! And like a spoiled little petulant princess she is going to destroy, demeanize, rip-apart her opponents like Saddam sending his enemies into a paper shredder.

47 posted on 03/07/2008 12:14:33 PM PST by harpo11 (2 Political Parties. 2 Dominant Political Families. Bush-Clinton. No More Dynasty In USA.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Ahh..true that the dhims will throw Hillary! to the sharks BUT when they annoint Obama-lama-ding-dong, they loose the Jewish vote...and with it, Florida.


48 posted on 03/07/2008 12:32:26 PM PST by TxAg1981
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To: TxAg1981
Ahh..true that the dhims will throw Hillary! to the sharks BUT when they annoint Obama-lama-ding-dong, they loose the Jewish vote...and with it, Florida.

I doubt that they've been counting on Florida. All they have to do is win the same states they won in 2004 plus Ohio and it'll be President Obama-lama-ding-dong. Not impossible.

49 posted on 03/07/2008 12:36:35 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Already the intraparty battle -- described by the Boston Globe as "trench warfare" -- has cost the Democrats a whopping $275 million.

Someone oughta bring this up the next time either one of them campaigns to raise our taxes. If the Dems love an overbearing government so much, they should pay for it themselves. And the same question should be asked to any RINO who advocated the same.

50 posted on 03/07/2008 12:59:06 PM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Algore to the rescue.


51 posted on 03/07/2008 1:01:23 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Lenin had his Trotsky. Obama is going to have his Clinton.

Hill and Bill better watch out for the icepick in the ear.

52 posted on 03/07/2008 1:03:21 PM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | echo "All your " | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r | echo "belong to us")
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To: Non-Sequitur
Which is why I believe that if it comes down to a choice between pissing off her and her supporters and pissing off Obama and his, then the DNC will toss her to the sharks.

I'd agree, except for 900 FBI files and God knows how much dirt that the Clintons have spent the last 16 years collecting.

53 posted on 03/07/2008 1:04:54 PM PST by Centurion2000 (su - | echo "All your " | chown -740 us ./base | kill -9 | cd / | rm -r | echo "belong to us")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This would have been perfect time for Rep. to run somebody competent and normal. Instead, there is crazy McLiar. It is a lose lose situation. Never in my wildest dreams did I envision the Rep. will come up with somebody as disgusting as McLiar. It is a lose-lose case for the country.
54 posted on 03/07/2008 1:06:06 PM PST by Jane Austen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war...may they carry loads of popcorn...


55 posted on 03/07/2008 1:07:18 PM PST by alarm rider ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Much ado about nothing. There’s Sen. Clinton/Sen. Obama unity ticket in the future. The rest is just hype and choreography.


56 posted on 03/07/2008 1:43:01 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: hellbender

Different scenarios. Neither Jackson nor Sharpton had a snowball’s chance of winning. Obama IS winning. If he gets robbed at the convention by machine politics, large segments of the black voter population will not turn out, even if Jackson and Sharpton ultimately back Hillary. Neither of those venerable reverends have the same clout today that they did years ago.


57 posted on 03/07/2008 2:16:35 PM PST by karnage
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To: Jane Austen

OK there is lose and lose...
A little sentence to think about


58 posted on 03/07/2008 3:02:44 PM PST by Ulysse (freedom is not free)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hillary is one on the left....


59 posted on 03/07/2008 3:06:47 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.©)
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To: karnage

Maybe you’re right. This situation has never arisen before (a “black” favored to win the POTUS). If blacks stay home, letting Hillary lose to McCain, maybe Obama will be able to run again in only 4 years, and the Clintons would then be out of the picture. By then McC’s many failings, his extreme age, and the relentless assault of the Leftmedia might make him very beatable. If Obama accepted VP under Hillary, on the other hand, he would have to wait 8 years.


60 posted on 03/07/2008 3:30:00 PM PST by hellbender
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