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1 posted on 03/06/2008 4:37:36 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Why no women? Easy, men are far better at math than women just as women are better with verbal skills than men. The sameness lies propagated by deceptive, sneaking liberals wallowing in political correctness are taken as truth by those in denial.

I wonder how the breakdown determined 45% were Jewish?? Asians are obvious but not Jews. Why no information on the remainder?


2 posted on 03/06/2008 4:43:30 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: neverdem

Aptitude.


3 posted on 03/06/2008 4:44:09 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: neverdem
And after all the jibberish, they get back to the math class at Harvard:

Back to Math 55 for a moment. Baron-Cohen, along with many other scholars who write about cognitive sex differences, would not be surprised to learn that students who show up in 55 are overwhelmingly male. The Harvard registrar’s office reports that a total of 17 women have completed the course since 1990. Still, the equity activists could be right that the few women who defy the stereo­type and take such a course have to overcome a “chilly environment.” I located two female survivors—Sherry Gong, currently enrolled, and Kelley Harris, who com­pleted Math 55 with an A last year. “Did you encounter a hostile environment in that class?” asked Miss Harris. She laughed. “I loved my classmates!” When she once thought of dropping out, it was her male friends in the course who persuaded her to stay. Sherry Gong was taken aback when inquired whether she felt that women in math were unwelcome or margin­alized. It was as if had asked whether women had the vote. “It is 2007!” she reminded me. Sergei Bernstein, a young man now enrolled, told me, “We would like to have more girls.”

6 posted on 03/06/2008 4:53:30 PM PST by dawn53
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To: neverdem
I'm in the "it isn't interesting for women" category. Why would any intelligent woman subject herself to Math 55 and the like knowing the small percent who manage to stick it out to the end of the semester.

Wanna bet those male students all have coke bottle glasses and pocket protectors?

7 posted on 03/06/2008 4:54:52 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: neverdem

PhD’s in cooking, cleaning, getting beering, etc. Just kidding!


8 posted on 03/06/2008 4:57:12 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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To: neverdem
As that great educational philosopher Teen Talk Barbie stated: "Math is Hard!"
11 posted on 03/06/2008 4:59:52 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Rattenschadenfreude: joy at a Democrat's pain, especially Hillary's pain caused by Obama.)
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Donna Shalala, president of the University of Miami and secretary of health and human services in the Clinton administration . . . warned that strong measures would be needed to improve the “hostile climate” women face in the academy. This “crisis,” as she called it, “clearly calls for a transformation of academic institutions . . . our nation’s future depends on it.”

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Cornell . . . just received a $3.3 million grant from the NSF to build a “critical mass” of women in all the STEM disciplines—ASAP.


14 posted on 03/06/2008 5:03:44 PM PST by cornelis
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To: neverdem
Why Can’t a Woman Be More Like a Man?

the answer leaves me hanging.

15 posted on 03/06/2008 5:04:57 PM PST by wardaddy (Obama: The candidate for those who think Deliverance was a documentary.)
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To: neverdem

I can’t remember - did Bill Gates take this course?


17 posted on 03/06/2008 5:05:11 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: neverdem

Getting a PhD is only the beginning. Something other than a science would be most practical. Do whatever you can become total master of and then the world will be yours.


19 posted on 03/06/2008 5:06:18 PM PST by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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“We had 51 students the first day, 31 students the second day, 24 for the next four days, 23 for two more weeks, and then 21 for the rest of the first semester.”

That is good (or bad, depending on your philosophy) for a freshman course. It is humane to start weeding out early on, rather than wait until 4th year to cull the weak (lol).

For a contrasting situation, during my undergrad, we had some untouchable profs near retirement teaching the 4th year math and theoretical physics (AKA math) courses. One particular (required) course in partial differential equations began with 35 solid students (solid enough to finish 3rd year) and ended with 14 students, with a posted class average of 56%. Two women remained, with no non-Asian minorities. Because of this course, the rest switched majors or dropped out.

Intro to quantum field theory started with 12 students and we ended with 2 (though the average this time was in the 90's), both of us Caucasian males, FWIW.

The hard sciences can be merciless, and there is no room for subjective excuses for personal failure (like "the prof doesn't like me" - you either get the correct answer/perform a sane analysis or you don't, end of story).

21 posted on 03/06/2008 5:11:45 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: neverdem

Math 55? Big deal. Obvious, they never heard of math 201 at OU under “Big Daddy” Earl Lafond. Over fifty percent failure rate. One A in 15 years.


22 posted on 03/06/2008 5:17:05 PM PST by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to keep a Democrat out of the White House.)
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To: neverdem

Just teach the subject! Don’t try to weed out the near geniuses from the geniuses. Chances are what the near geniuses can learn will handle about 99% of the work out there. They might be used to working harder already, and it gives them a better work ethic than the geniuses who didn’t have to study as much or at all. I saw too many of the near geniuses that ended up majoring in Psychology because they were weeded out by courses like these. That’s a waste of talent. I recommend that they don’t go to Harvard, and that they go to a small underrated school that will teach them instead of weeding them out.


23 posted on 03/06/2008 5:21:14 PM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: neverdem

My last 2 years in college, there was not a single female in my classes. Maybe a handful the first 2 years.

The last woman I did research with ended up being my secretary because she was better at talking to sponsors. As far as scientific work went, she had no idea.

But she got the same research credit I did and an AMAZING job offer. I wonder why I didn’t get ANY offers?


24 posted on 03/06/2008 5:25:56 PM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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I’m the third generation example in my family, of a female with boy brains! Grandma was an accountant, Mom and I enjoy math and mechanical pursuits. What’s more, we don’t talk much, and when I hear other women talk on and on, I get impatient.
We don’t run masculine in the looks, fortunately :) and when lost, I ask directions. But I can believe there’s a genetic factor at work here.


28 posted on 03/06/2008 5:44:50 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: neverdem
I'd love to hear Lisa Randall's opinion on the class.

Cheers!

33 posted on 03/06/2008 6:03:41 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: neverdem

Well I double majored in Chemistry and Math. Math was easy. But hey I went to Medical School. Problem is what woma who is the type to do physical sciences will be that way after a lefty indoctrination at expensive Universities. I never got the lefty message. No womyn studies and such for me.


40 posted on 03/06/2008 6:44:52 PM PST by therut
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To: neverdem

When will these people realize that males and females are different? It’s so simple.


41 posted on 03/06/2008 6:53:16 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: neverdem

What’s for dinner?


56 posted on 03/07/2008 2:36:24 PM PST by rrrod
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To: neverdem

Because intuition and consensus are only the beginning in math or science, not the end product?


67 posted on 03/07/2008 5:36:47 PM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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