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To: neverdem

Why no women? Easy, men are far better at math than women just as women are better with verbal skills than men. The sameness lies propagated by deceptive, sneaking liberals wallowing in political correctness are taken as truth by those in denial.

I wonder how the breakdown determined 45% were Jewish?? Asians are obvious but not Jews. Why no information on the remainder?


2 posted on 03/06/2008 4:43:30 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: Neoliberalnot

As a woman and an educator, I agree. Women are much better spellers and writers as whole, naturally. Men are better at math and science. There are always exceptions, of course.


4 posted on 03/06/2008 4:47:54 PM PST by Blogger (Propheteuon.com)
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To: Neoliberalnot
As a male, who happens to be good at math — I'd have to say you're wrong. Please see my # 30 here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1980943/posts

At the level of math or science PhD’s, the differences can be explained away by a tiny stretching of the Normal curve for males, compared to that for females. A tiny fraction more males than females have very high math abilities — comparable to the larger proportion of males who have very low abilities. (Or, so the hypothesis goes.)

At the level of ordinary undergraduate math and science, men and women are, for all practicle purposes, equally able. IMHO, the differences are probably due to social factors. Math and science is a tough grind, and the course work tends to be largely a solitary effort. Hence the stereotypical math geek. Women tend to gravitate toward courses that allow more social interaction. Also, there is still some legacy of the “Mrs.” degree — where women enrolled in “finishing school” courses like art appreciation, rather than grind courses like physics.

Women, who want to study math or science — and who are prepared for the grind — should not hesitate to do so. They're as capable as almost all men in that regard.

There is still some question as to whether women are as capable at the advanced PhD level of science or math. Larry Summers, quondam President of Harvard, got pilloried for simply suggesting that some more research might be required on this subject — so, don't hold your breath waiting for the actual research to be done and published. Regardless — almost all of us men are not capable of such advanced math or science work either.

16 posted on 03/06/2008 5:05:00 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Neoliberalnot

That was a good point about the %. I never understand why some people get all up in arms that men might actually be better at something than women and vice versa.

Men are better at a lot of things and I am very grateful for that, in fact. There is way too much man-bashing these days and especially white man bashing.


18 posted on 03/06/2008 5:05:49 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Neoliberalnot

Probably self-identified.


29 posted on 03/06/2008 5:48:51 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Neoliberalnot
I wonder how the breakdown determined 45% were Jewish?? Asians are obvious but not Jews.

Yes, it is obvious if you think about it and for the same reason as Asians. Culture.

I saw it 40 years ago in my high school. The Jewish kids where predominant in the advanced placement courses, especially in the sciences. Not all of them were 'scholars' but they sure as hell had a very high percentage that were. The were far more likely than others to study hard, work hard and they took learning far more serious than most of us did as teenagers. .

My parents would have been happy if I were honor roll, but they they didn't demand anything other than 'average' from me. I just wanted to pass and get through and for the most part the did minimum amount of work necessary. Many of those Jewish kids would be in real trouble at home if they weren't on the honor roll. It was expected of them.

That was part of their culture that came from Europe with them and their parents enforced it on them. They knew that to succeed in anything, they could not be 'just as good' as their competitors but better than their competitors. They didn't hope for some job at the mill and a nice car after high school. They deferred gratification and prepared themselves to became the doctors, the lawyers and the business owners who could succeed on skills and knowledge.

Frankly, it's good to see that all these years later, that culture has not disintegrated. I personally don't subscribe to the genetic stuff where some races are smarter than others. I am convinced that it is culture and how the kid was raised and the expectation placed on that individual that make the difference.

31 posted on 03/06/2008 5:53:23 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Neoliberalnot
just as women are better with verbal skills than men.

Not this again.

It is not true.

Here is a sampling of SAT scores since 1972:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0883611.html

Males usually outscore females slightly in the verbal SAT and outscore them substantially in the math portion. Remember this the next time you hear a feminist blame the drop in male college attendance on lack of aptitude.

I could not find a table that shows the SAT results for every year.

47 posted on 03/06/2008 8:59:09 PM PST by TChad
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