Moses was high on drugs: Israeli researcher

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[Anti-Hillary]

High on Mount Sinai, Moses was on psychedelic drugs when he heard God deliver the Ten Commandments, an Israeli researcher claimed in a study published this week. Such mind-altering substances formed an integral part of the religious rites of Israelites in biblical times, Benny Shanon, a professor of cognitive psychology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem wrote in the Time and Mind journal of philosophy.

"As far Moses on Mount Sinai is concerned, it was either a supernatural cosmic event, which I don't believe, or a legend, which I don't believe either, or finally, and this is very probable, an event that joined Moses and the people of Israel under the effect of narcotics," Shanon told Israeli public radio on Tuesday.

Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush," suggested Shanon, who said he himself has dabbled with such substances.

"The Bible says people see sounds, and that is a clasic phenomenon," he said citing the example of religious ceremonies in the Amazon in which drugs are used that induce people to "see music."

He mentioned his own experience when he used ayahuasca, a powerful psychotropic plant, during a religious ceremony in Brazil's Amazon forest in 1991. "I experienced visions that had spiritual-religious connotations," Shanon said.

He said the psychedelic effects of ayahuasca were comparable to those produced by concoctions based on bark of the acacia tree, that is frequently mentioned in the Bible.

[aruanan]

Moses was probably also on drugs when he saw the "burning bush," suggested Shanon, who said he himself has dabbled with such substances.

Classic case of projection.

[DocRock]

"How about the wine at the last super"

The Bible never says "wine" was used... only "the fruit of the vine".

[aruanan]

I won’t hold my breath waiting for him to announce MUHAMMED was high on drugs, also. I would guess he would be scared to do that....

Weren't the assassins a Muslim hit squad high on hashish?

[uncbob]

The Bible never says "wine" was used... only "the fruit of the vine".

Yeah Welch's grape juice

[bleach]

Dead-sea Heads? Was Moses the Jerry Garcia of his time?

[Kolb]

Deserts are not necessarily totally devoid of water, plants and animal life. Indigenous people often have intimate knowledge of what “medicinal” plants are present and are familiar with proper dosing techniques- seems to be very common in cultures all over the world. Sinai would be no different.

[SandRat]

[the_daug]

In preparation for Passover the leaven (Yeast) is removed from households

Exodus 12:19:

Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses:

Wine would need to have leaven.

[Pharmboy]

Uuuuhhh...don't be too sure

[uncbob]

Yeah it was grape juice

[sheik yerbouty]

Genesis 1:11 “Let the earth bring forth grass”, but it was the researcher who was inhaling..

[DocRock]

And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave [it] to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. Matthew 26:27-29

And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many. Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God. Mark 14:24-25

And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide [it] among yourselves: For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. Luke 22:17-18

Leaven was always symbolic of evil and therefore could not have been used to ferment the "fruit of the vine" in the ordinance of the Communion.

[Phyllo]

Peyote is from the seed pod buttons of a cactus...Cactus is native only to the Americas....everywhere else it is found in the world,it has been imported

[Uncle Meat]

If this were true,wouldn’t the first commandment been”Don’t bogart thy joint?”

[brytlea]

There may be related or similar plants elsewhere, but if I believe peyote is native to the American southwest and Mexico. Pretty sure Moses didn’t travel that far.
susie

[brytlea]

Then at the "Last Supper" Jesus passed around wine to His disciples. Since this was six to seven months after the grape harvest and since there was no way to preserve grape juice, this also had to be fermented wine. (The actual phrase is "fruit of the vine," but, as pointed out by The New Westminster Dictionary of the Bible, this expression was "employed by the Jews from time immemorial for the wine partaken of on sacred occasions, as at the Passover and on the evening of the Sabbath. The Greeks also used the term as a synonym of wine which was capable of intoxication.")

http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/chrdrink.html

[DocRock]

wine = Strong's number G3631

Fruit = Strong's G1081

of the vine = Strong's G288

Word's have meanings. "Wine" and "Fruit of the vine" are not the same thing.

[ffusco]

Doesn’t peyote grow in the desert?

[LambSlave]

Yes, in the American southwest; not in the middle east.

[LambSlave]

Leaven was always symbolic of evil and therefore could not have been used to ferment the "fruit of the vine" in the ordinance of the Communion.

Amazing how it took the Christian church nearly 2000 years to figure this out. You do realize that before the start of the Temperance movement in the USA, Protestent churches (and of course Catholic and Orthodox) used wine for Communion, right? It was Welch's pasteurization of grape juice in 1869 combined with the secular Temperance movement that prompted the change, not some remarkable new exegesis of the New Testament.