Mormon, Catholic doctrines can collide (No coffee, tea in polling place?)

East Valley Tribune ^ | March 1, 2008 | Lawn Griffiths

[greyfoxx39]

Religious and cultural traditions collide in odd ways.

• Is it right to tell election poll workers, assigned to Mormon church meeting houses, to not bring coffee, sodas or anything else caffeinated to refresh themselves during their long day tending to voters?

-SNIP-

First, let’s look at the polling place duties and sipping Maxwell House in the meeting house.

Longtime Tempe poll worker Mary Ann Hemmingson has signed up to work the polls for the March 11 election. She’ll spend her 14- or 15-hour day in a church, but no longer one that belongs to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

“I never sign up to work at a Mormon church because the board workers there are not allowed to have any caffeine on the premises,” she said. “That means no coffee in the morning and no Diet Coke in the afternoon. ... You don’t want to see what I look like without my daily dose of caffeine. It’s not a pretty picture.”

“The Word of Wisdom” portion of the Doctrine and Covenants, put forth in 1833 by church founder and prophet Joseph Smith, says that “hot drinks are not for the body or belly.” Add to that what H. Burke Peterson, first counselor in the Presiding Bishopric, said in 1975: “We know that cola drinks contain the drug caffeine. We know caffeine is not wholesome nor prudent for the use of our bodies. It is only sound judgment to conclude that cola drinks and any others that contain caffeine or other harmful ingredients should not be used.”

Advising followers to restrict what they take into their bodies is one thing, but applying that mandate to those people who perform a public job inside their buildings in a one-day stint seems to be taking things too Far.

[SkyPilot]

That clip is so inflammatory I wonder that someone hasn't tried to counter it yet.

Well, it's "fake!"

Didn't you hear?

[SkyPilot]

Of the Catholic church!

??????????????????

OK, so we go from canned cheese, to a loaf of bread, to the Catholic Church now?

[restornu]

Slow poke!

[pby]

Sorry...I did not know that it was offensive to call a LDS a Mormon (strange that other LDS are not offended by it).

I will only refer to you as a LDS.

And (I believe)...I only didn't cap the word "Mormon" when it was in the word "anti-Mormon" because another LDS on, this or the other thread, spelled it that way. Again, it was not my intention to offend.

If I answer this question what is your intend?

A couple of things:

The first of which will be a celebration in receiving a response to this/these question(s); :) The second will be to gain accurate knowledge in regard to the matter.

[restornu]

Sorry...I did not know that it was offensive to call a LDS a Mormon (strange that other LDS are not offended by it).

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It is not so much of being offended, as is misconception, mislabeling things of the Lord Jesus Christ as being Mormon.

Mormon was a prophet who received the word of God.

So it is not Mormon’s salvation it is the Lord’s Jesus Christ.

[restornu]

I will answer your question but I have to leave for now BBL!

[Tennessee Nana]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

resty got Elsie’s # 666

wonder what that means ???????????

[greyfoxx39]

It is not so much of being offended, as is misconception, mislabeling things of the Lord Jesus Christ as being Mormon.
Mormon was a prophet who received the word of God.
So it is not Mormon’s salvation it is the Lord’s Jesus Christ.

Those of us who do not accept your definition of what is salvation of the Lord Jesus Christ are not bound by your grammatical rules...to me, mormon is just a made up name out of a made up book.

If you will point me to a Bible reference to mormon being a prophet, and when the opposition posters are treated with comparable respect, I may consider.

[Godzilla]

So you like to refer Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as polytheistic!

Within orthodox mormonism it is -> three separate gods=polytheism

Sorry if you find it difficult to cap proper names this conversation is suspended!

If you are referring to the above, pls go back and read my post to you again :) Otherwise it seem that you are fishing for a reason NOT to answer my post. :))

[MHGinTN]

When she gets the data from FAIR, she will post it. Must be a few Melchizadekers over at FAIR.

[Godzilla]

When she gets the data from FAIR, she will post it. Must be a few Melchizadekers over at FAIR.

Data was intercepted below is the encrypted message

[Elsie]

do you have an answer for Elsie ?????

Do you have an answer for JESUS!

[Elsie]

But since the last thread, with varying responses from our friends that make up the Mormon contingent, I am still confused on the topic of how a non-mormon obtains salvation and how a non-mormon recieves the atonement of Jesus Christ.

It's obvious: so are they!

[Elsie]

Those who are humble and doing the will of the Father is doing the Lord’s work.

SOMEone is confused:

John 6:28-29

28. Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29. Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

If you do ANY MORE than this; it's extra.

[Elsie]

I am LDS

 

 

KJV Luke 18:10-15
 10.  Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
 11.  The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
 12.  I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
 13.  And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
 14.  I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
 

[Elsie]

Sorry if you find it difficult to cap proper names this conversation is suspended!I'll take my ball and go home.

[Elsie]

Yup!

You have finally flipped out for ALL to SEE!

[Elsie]

By the way, I'd like your proof that the radio clip from the Christian program "The Heart of the Matter" is fake?

That's simple!

As True Believers; we have the Gift of Discernment about these matters.

It's been REVEALED to us that it is fake.

--MormonDude(Just like our Living Prophet had it 'revealed' to him that the Salamander thingy was fake.)

[Tennessee Nana]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Reminds me of the story of Elijah and the prophets of Baal on Mt Carmel

the prophets of Baal had a hard time getting an answer from their god too....

And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD [be] God, follow him: but if Baal, [then] follow him. And the people answered him not a word. Then said Elijah unto the people, I, [even] I only, remain a prophet of the LORD; but Baal’s prophets [are] four hundred and fifty men. Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay [it] on wood, and put no fire [under]: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay [it] on wood, and put no fire [under]: And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken. And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress [it] first; for ye [are] many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire [under]. And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed [it], and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But [there was] no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he [is] a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, [or] peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them. And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the [time] of the offering of the [evening] sacrifice, that [there was] neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded. 1Ki 18:21-29

[Elsie]

I just handled a bunny at the farm store.

Eyeballed a bunch of chicks, too, but am holding out for the ducklings to arrive.