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Vanity Question - DVD Burner under Win98?
Self ^ | 03/03/08 | 50sdad

Posted on 03/03/2008 4:25:15 AM PST by 50sDad

Recently, I added a DVD-burner to my XP-based PC with no problem at all. My brother, however, in imitation, has gotten one of those no-name with no-software DVD-burners for his Win98SE machine, and has discovered the off-the-shelf burning software he bought gags and dies. he has a very fast (well, it was a few months ago) PC with 500+ meg memory.


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Can anyone tell me if there is DVD burning package that can live in Win98?
1 posted on 03/03/2008 4:25:17 AM PST by 50sDad
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To: 50sDad

Nero 6


2 posted on 03/03/2008 4:28:12 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: 50sDad

Read this:http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/612028.html


3 posted on 03/03/2008 4:31:18 AM PST by rawhide
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To: 50sDad

Your brother needs to get off of Win98. Seriously.


4 posted on 03/03/2008 4:31:41 AM PST by Doohickey (McCain 2008: A President with Tourette's will make press conferences interesting...)
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To: Doohickey

“Your brother needs to get off of Win98. Seriously.”

Tell him to consider Microsoft Bob.


5 posted on 03/03/2008 4:42:38 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: 50sDad

Go to eBay and look for roxio, cd-creator and nero disks. See what is being offered that will burn DVD under Win 98.

AS for the 500mb of memory. Quite impressive but I think Win 98 can only utilize 256 max


6 posted on 03/03/2008 4:50:29 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: 50sDad

As has already been mentioned-Nero 6


7 posted on 03/03/2008 4:53:50 AM PST by sierrahome (Hillary Clinton "America's Ex-Wife")
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To: 50sDad
You don't really give enough info here. Did he get an IDE burner, or is he trying to use his USB port?

If he's trying to use a USB burner, he's probably wasting his time. Windows 98 and USB have lots of compatibility/dependability problems unless he has the final revision of Window 98, (C or 3?) and even then they don't always work well.

If he has an IDE burner, he should be fine. If not go to Newegg.com and get one. Cheapies are under $25 with free shipping now.

Nero will work good for him, and he can go here and grab DVD Shrink DVD Decrypter and RipIt4Me for copying commercial movies he might rent.

He can also go here for instructions and info on how to use those 3 I just mentioned. They are free and will nail anything the recording industrie will throw at him.

8 posted on 03/03/2008 5:08:21 AM PST by Slump Tester (Only CINOs and democRATs knowingly and willingly vote for RINOs!)
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To: dennisw
AS for the 500mb of memory. Quite impressive but I think Win 98 can only utilize 256 max

IIRC, it actually slows down with more than 128MB...

Mark

9 posted on 03/03/2008 5:12:46 AM PST by MarkL
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To: 50sDad

Sheesh, tell him it is 2008 not 1998. I am thinking his processor is not going to be powerful enough to handle alot of the processor intensive tasks that are needed when you actually burn something to the disk, unless the data is already in the correct file format.


10 posted on 03/03/2008 5:21:09 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: 50sDad

Nero 7 is the latest that works with 98. It’s 40 bucks on amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Nero-7-Ultra-Old-Version/dp/system-requirements/B000BCGFCO


11 posted on 03/03/2008 5:22:15 AM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: 50sDad
You can also probably buy a really old version on ebay and upgrade it.

I believe Nero lets you upgrade as much as you want with the same serial number.

12 posted on 03/03/2008 5:24:37 AM PST by varyouga ("Rove is some mysterious God of politics & mind control" - DU 10-24-06)
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To: MarkL

Actually thats not quite true, its more than 512 is where the problem comes in:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/topics/hardware/hwddresctr.asp

SYMPTOMS
If a computer that is running any of the versions of Windows that are
listed above contains more than 512 megabytes (for example, 768
megabytes) of physical memory (RAM), you may experience one or more of
the following symptoms:
You may be unable to open an MS-DOS session (or command prompt) while
Windows is running. Attempts to do so may generate the following error
message:
There is not enough memory available to run this program.
Quit one or more programs, and then try again.
The computer may stop responding (hang) while Windows is starting, or
halt and display the following error message:

Insufficient memory to initialize windows. Quit one or more
memory-resident programs or remove unnecessary utilities from your
Config.sys and Autoexec.bat files, and restart your computer.
CAUSE
The Windows 32-bit protected-mode cache driver (Vcache) determines the
maximum cache size based on the amount of RAM that is present when
Windows starts. Vcache then reserves enough memory addresses to permit
it to access a cache of the maximum size so that it can increase the
cache to that size if needed. These addresses are allocated in a range
of virtual addresses from 0xC0000000 through 0xFFFFFFFF (3 to 4
gigabytes) known as the system arena.

On computers with large amounts of RAM, the maximum cache size can be
large enough that Vcache consumes all of the addresses in the system
arena, leaving no virtual memory addresses available for other
functions such as opening an MS-DOS prompt (creating a new virtual
machine).
WORKAROUND
To work around this problem, use one of the following methods:
Use the MaxFileCache setting in the System.ini file to reduce the
maximum amount of memory that Vcache uses to 512 megabytes (524,288
KB) or less. For additional information about how to use the
MaxFileCache setting, click the article number below to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
108079 32-Bit File Access Maximum Cache Size

Use the System Configuration utility to limit the amount of memory
that Windows uses to 512 megabytes (MB) or less.For additional
information about how to use the System Configuration utility, click
the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft
Knowledge Base:
181966 System Configuration Utility Advanced Troubleshooting Settings

Reduce the amount of memory that is installed in your computer to 512 MB or less.
STATUS
Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft
products that are listed at the beginning of this article.
MORE INFORMATION
Vcache is limited internally to a maximum cache size of 800 MB.

This problem may occur more readily with Advanced Graphics Port (AGP)
video adapters because the AGP aperture is also mapped to addresses in
the system arena. For example, if Vcache is using a maximum cache size
of 800 MB and an AGP video adapter has a 128-MB aperture mapped, there
is very little address space remaining for the other system code and
data that must occupy this range of virtual addresses. “
from:
Microsoft knowledge base
( http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;253912 )

So there´s a workaround given and you should be able to put more RAM
in your computer without any problems. My experience however is that
here is not much sense in doing this. Speed won´t really go up.

I had a Win98 SE machine for some years and had a lot of RAM related
trouble as I had 768 MB of memory installed. Unless you have other
reasons to use the Win98 I would change to Win2000. I´ve never had any
RAM related problems with my Win2000 machine.


13 posted on 03/03/2008 5:26:20 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: MarkL
SE and ME could handle 512mb, and there's a +512mb Patch available, but prolly not neccesary.
14 posted on 03/03/2008 5:27:19 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: MarkL

I think you are right ——

128mb of memory cost me 178$ when I had a windows 98 computer built for me in 1998


15 posted on 03/03/2008 5:37:05 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: 50sDad

You might check out deepburner (free edition). The documentation says it will work with 98. I’ve used it for several years with XP. It is a nice cd/dvd burner program.

http://www.deepburner.com


16 posted on 03/03/2008 5:40:22 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: 50sDad
Dad,

You been a FReeper forever, why is this breaking news?

17 posted on 03/03/2008 5:49:30 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: dennisw
Go to eBay and look for roxio

I'm not sure I would recommend Roxio. That was the software which came with my Maddog DVD burner and when I installed it, something happened to my computer and Roxio was a real pain in the butt to disinstall it. (And this was a brand new computer too. Fortunately I had help from the store that I purchased it from.)

In trying to figure out how to disinstall it, I found all kinds of articles on the internet warning people against Roxio.........

Was Roxio really at fault for screwing up my computer? I can't say for certain that it was but all I know is that it was a bitch to remove and once gone, the computer worked once again and the other software - One Click DVD - installed perfectly and has never been a problem.

18 posted on 03/03/2008 5:52:00 AM PST by Hot Tabasco ( Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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To: USS Alaska
You been a FReeper forever, why is this breaking news?

My own abject stupidity, my advanced age, my error in protocol, my interest in a result, and your own impatiance with the failings of other.

19 posted on 03/03/2008 6:24:44 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I plead the 5th on Roxio. I’ve used it for CD burning and was OK. Am using nero in this computer


20 posted on 03/03/2008 8:43:01 AM PST by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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