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Vanity: Requesting FReeper Advice on Friend's Firearms Bust
vanity | 02/27/2008 | rogue yam

Posted on 02/27/2008 12:31:40 PM PST by rogue yam

Fellow FReepers, please forgive this, my first-ever vanity post. I am seeking advice for my friend who was arrested at Spokane Airport for going through airport security with a handgun in his carry-on bag.

Background: My friend is a responsible, married, small business owner with absolutely no criminal background. He has a valid Washington State concealed carry permit. On the day of his arrest he had been doing some business requiring him to carry cash, so he had also carried (in a small carry bag) a handgun for personal security. He went home and then went to the Spokane Airport to take a short in-state flight for a business trip. Unfortunately he simply forgot to remove his handgun from his carry bag so when he went through security at the airport and he ran his bag through the x-ray machine, the gun was discovered leading to his arrest.

The Airport Police were very reasonable and low-key and he was on his way in twenty minutes (minus his handgun, of course) but my friend is now charged with a Washington State criminal violation, RCW9.41.300, for carrying his handgun into a restricted area.

So here's the reason for my post: My friend is fairly new to that area and does not have local contacts with regard to legal advice, etc. Also, he has never had to deal with anything like this before. He called me to ask for advice as to whether he should plead guilty and/or whether and how he should seek legal representation in this matter.

We both searched for Washington State gun rights contacts and I told him I would post this request for information here on FR.

If any FReepers, and in particular Eastern Washington FReepers, have any suggestions or relevant experience regarding how my friend should proceed to resolve this honest mistake with no criminal intent, I would very much appreciate hearing from you either on this thread or by FReepmail.

Thank you all.

- rogue yam


TOPICS: US: Washington; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: banglist; firearm; secondamendment; washington
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To: rogue yam
It's gonna be a Federal case I bet.

Lawyer up!

21 posted on 02/27/2008 12:38:26 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: rogue yam

In a sane country, your friend would be asked to show his CCW permit and asked if he would be willing to assist in case of an emergency. Then he would have gotten preferred seating on the flight.


22 posted on 02/27/2008 12:38:36 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: rogue yam

Call Bob Knight. Or, was it Billy Tubbs? Barry Switzer? I don’t remember. One of those guys had a gun in his carry on, and got off scot-free.


23 posted on 02/27/2008 12:38:36 PM PST by newgeezer (Amendment XIX was passed and ratified by spineless, self-serving men.)
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To: TChris
He should hire a good attorney. There's not much any FReepers can do at this point.

Ditto. And not take anyone's advise from an internet forum. LOL.

24 posted on 02/27/2008 12:38:41 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: r9etb
I suggest that you contact the Second Amendment Foundation, which is based in Bellevue.

Thank you for your help.

25 posted on 02/27/2008 12:39:34 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Is his name Barry Switzer?...............


26 posted on 02/27/2008 12:39:46 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: rogue yam

He broke the law. Plain and simple. But he does need to get a good lawyer. What else is there to say?


27 posted on 02/27/2008 12:40:18 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: newgeezer

Barry Switzer..........and it cost him a lot of $$$$$$..........


28 posted on 02/27/2008 12:40:41 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: rogue yam

I would have him call Joe Santos at Center Target in Post Falls. He knows quite a few 2nd savvy atty’s and may be able to point hin in the right direction. In my Utah CCW class he gave the name of his personal atty but I can’t find my notes! Joe is a very good guy.


29 posted on 02/27/2008 12:41:14 PM PST by Ribeye (Protective head wear courtesy of "Reynolds Aluminum Products - Implant Suppression Division")
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To: rogue yam

I would have him call Joe Santos at Center Target in Post Falls. He knows quite a few 2nd savvy atty’s and may be able to point hin in the right direction. In my Utah CCW class he gave the name of his personal atty but I can’t find my notes! Joe is a very good guy.


30 posted on 02/27/2008 12:41:25 PM PST by Ribeye (Protective head wear courtesy of "Reynolds Aluminum Products - Implant Suppression Division")
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To: Wings-n-Wind

Not trying to sound callous, but how do you forget where you have your guns?


31 posted on 02/27/2008 12:41:36 PM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: rogue yam

Sorry, I find it really hard to believe, that while standing in the security line, he didn’t even realise he was armed. They have pictures everywhere reminding you of what can and cannot be carried through.


32 posted on 02/27/2008 12:41:36 PM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: newgeezer
One of those guys had a gun in his carry on, and got off scot-free.

I've heard of such cases a number of times. The hard part in this instance is finding a good, experienced local lawyer and knowing how to proceed.

33 posted on 02/27/2008 12:41:46 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: stuartcr

Exactly. And those signs are there for a reason. It’s always a good idea to double check that you have no prohibited items before entering a checkpoint of any kind.

Failure to do otherwise can actually get you shot. :P


34 posted on 02/27/2008 12:43:07 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
For the record... He should NOT have had the weapon on him....

He knows this. People make mistakes.

35 posted on 02/27/2008 12:43:14 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: Just another Joe

“I’m afraid that without legal representation, or if he pleads guilty, he will lose his legal ability to carry a firearm.”

That is a definite yes on losing the carry permit. He was committing a crime, so I don’t see him ever getting the gun back. But that may be the least of his problems. If I were him I would hope for a fine and not much more than that.


36 posted on 02/27/2008 12:44:08 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: newgeezer

I believe it was Switzer. He had a nice large legal team that made it clear that any prosecution would cost the prosecuting agency far more in money and community good will than they would benefit from a conviction.

Moral of story: When charged, hire the best shark you can find.


37 posted on 02/27/2008 12:44:42 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: All

As an aside, anyone ever hear what happened to Sen. Webb’s assistant who inadvertently tried to carry the senator’s pistol through Capitol security a few months back?


38 posted on 02/27/2008 12:44:45 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rogue yam

He should not plead guilty. He SHOULD get a lawyer that specializes in gun problems and conceal carry issues and have the lawyer represent him. This will cost some big time money, but if he simply cops a guilty plea he will LOSE his conceal carry permit and will be ineligible to get another one. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should he try to deal with this on his own.


39 posted on 02/27/2008 12:45:29 PM PST by VRWCmember (McCain 2008 - If it's inevitable, you might as well lay back and try to enjoy it.)
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To: Kirkwood
But he does need to get a good lawyer. What else is there to say?

Advice on how to go about finding this good lawyer? Direct experience regarding others who were in this situation before?

40 posted on 02/27/2008 12:45:45 PM PST by rogue yam
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