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Barack Obama Would Take Back Vote Helping Terri Schiavo
LifeNews.com ^ | February 26, 2008 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 02/26/2008 8:21:18 PM PST by SErtelt

by Steven Ertelt LifeNews.com Editor February 26, 2008

Cleveland, OH (LifeNews.com) -- Senator Barack Obama debated his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton on Tuesday night and said his biggest mistake was voting to help save Terri Schiavo. Terri is the disabled Florida woman whose husband won the legal right to starve her to death.

(Excerpt) Read more at lifenews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; barackobama; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; obama; prolife; schiavo; terrischiavo
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To: Pinkbell

You watch my back, and I’ll watch yours! I’ve taken to just cutting and pasting since I never seem to get a reply.

I keep getting told by people, most of whom have been conned into thinking that states’ rights include the right to kill innocent people, that the gov’t had no business getting involved.

They have been schooled in faux federalism.

Then, of course, there are socialists who agree with them!


61 posted on 02/27/2008 2:29:05 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

Yes. Social liberalism has definitely infiltrated part of the conservative movement. Some believe it is conservative to be soically liberal.


62 posted on 02/27/2008 2:44:12 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
What, still no answer? I didn’t get one either.

I believe there's a thread with over 2,000 replies where this issue has been argued ad nauseum.

63 posted on 02/27/2008 4:02:40 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: Pinkbell
Yes. Social liberalism has definitely infiltrated part of the conservative movement. Some believe it is conservative to be soically liberal.

It's a novel concept called freedom, check it out sometime.

64 posted on 02/27/2008 4:04:31 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: Swordfished; 8mmMauser; EternalVigilance; Pinkbell

Arguing is not the same as exchanging factual information.

The duty of government is to defend innocent human life.

Obama claims there is some constitutional principle involved in looking the other way while innocent people, who are denied their constitutional rights to due process and equal protection, under American law, are starved to death via court order.

You asserted that you agree with Obama.

There is no such consitutional principle.

It is a deadly lie, and one which you may find yourself subjected to one day.


65 posted on 02/27/2008 5:07:36 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Swordfished
and I applaud Obama on his new opinion Congress’s role in the Schiavo case, which is based on constitutional law.

What part of the Constitution would that be?

66 posted on 02/27/2008 5:11:35 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Obama, the King of Hope-a-Dope)
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To: Swordfished; fetal heart beats by 21st day
What, still no answer? I didn’t get one either.
I believe there's a thread with over 2,000 replies where this issue has been argued ad nauseum.


Yeah, that's just what I thought. A non-answer dodge. You deathbots got what you wanted to achieve. Enjoy your victory while it lasts.
67 posted on 02/27/2008 6:24:52 PM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life Member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Nonstatist

lol


68 posted on 02/27/2008 6:25:52 PM PST by Vision ("If God so clothes the grass of the field...will He not much more clothe you...?" -Matthew 6:30)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
The duty of government is to defend innocent human life.

And they're doing a bang-up job of it aren't they?

69 posted on 02/27/2008 6:56:32 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

Do you believe ‘defending innocent human life’ trumps the wishes of the spouse? What about the wishes of the human life in question? Is marriage a sacred contract or is it not?


70 posted on 02/27/2008 7:00:09 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: Swordfished

Innocent human life trumps all.

Liberty and “happiness,” however one defines it, does not and cannot exist without life.

A man who needs his wife dead in order to obtain “happiness” certainly does not consider marriage sacred.

Back to your statement about the Constitution, though, where is this right to kill innocent human beings in the US Constitution?


71 posted on 02/27/2008 7:07:21 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: jwalsh07

Now we’re talking about a spouse’s wishes trumping his wife’s right to life. It’s got something to do with holy matrimony, it seems


72 posted on 02/27/2008 7:09:27 PM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Swordfished
Do you believe ‘defending innocent human life’ trumps the wishes of the spouse? What about the wishes of the human life in question? Is marriage a sacred contract or is it not?

A nonsensical and dishonest argument as it applied to this case. This was spawned by a cult leader who believed he could communicate with the dead and their spirits. The "husband" in this case had been having a long term affair and having children with another woman. There's much more that could be said, but that's enough to demonstrate how ridiculous your comments are about this "sacred" contract from the "husband".

73 posted on 02/27/2008 7:10:59 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I just want to weigh in and say I don’t give a rat’s ass.

That is all.


74 posted on 02/27/2008 7:15:48 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day

Oh yeah? I bet you kill puppies and kittens for fun, steal pacifiers from babies and run down pigeons on your way to work you heartless bastid.


75 posted on 02/27/2008 7:26:53 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

I don’t have a real job, I close down orphanages just for giggles.

When I get tired of that, I push grannies into oncoming traffic.


76 posted on 02/27/2008 7:30:34 PM PST by Constitution Day (Squawk! Culture of death! Culture of death! Squawk! Squawk!)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
Back to your statement about the Constitution, though, where is this right to kill innocent human beings in the US Constitution?

You frame the issue so that your position is unquestionable. It isn't so simple. This isn't Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia where innocent people are picked at will and murdered.

77 posted on 02/27/2008 7:36:10 PM PST by Swordfished
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To: Swordfished; fetal heart beats by 21st day
Back to your statement about the Constitution, though, where is this right to kill innocent human beings in the US Constitution?

You frame the issue so that your position is unquestionable. It isn't so simple. This isn't Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia where innocent people are picked at will and murdered.


YOU were the one who said originally in post #33

and I applaud Obama on his new opinion Congress’s role in the Schiavo case, which is based on constitutional law. (emphasis mine)

Both of us are asking you to back it up.
78 posted on 02/28/2008 1:51:26 AM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life Member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Constitution Day; Rb ver. 2.0

Come on guys, don’t be shy. If you have something to say, say it.


79 posted on 02/28/2008 1:54:52 AM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life Member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: Norman Bates

He said that their “not gonna give up those profits easily”

When he said that, I heard victory bells for McCain. Seriously, his idea of energy reform is to steal money from Exxon?

The guys a communist.


80 posted on 02/28/2008 2:09:46 AM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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