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Hillary Gives Up!
Vanity | 2/22/08 | DWPittelli

Posted on 02/22/2008 5:46:14 PM PST by DWPittelli

Hillary Clinton hasn't publicly conceded the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, of course. But I have seen a significant new piece of evidence indicating that she has given up, that her actions show she is no longer acting primarily to win the election, but rather to position herself better if she loses. (Psychologically, her closing speech last night has been widely discussed as possibly hinting at the same thing.)

What's the news? She has sent out invitations to Massachusetts supporters that she will be in Boston this Sunday (Feb 24), holding a fundraiser dinner (a $5,000 per table “Conversation with Hillary” that is “In Support of Hillary Clinton for President”). Now she could hold a fundraiser just as easily in a state that still has a primary to come. But she is instead in Massachusetts because whatever differential in cash she can get by being in Boston instead of in Texas or Ohio (or Rhode Island, where she will be earlier in the day) more than outweighs the advantage she could get in votes by showing up in a still-relevant state.

The other interpretation of this news is that she's so broke that she must maximize income even at the cost of not being in relevant states with upcoming primaries. This is different, but almost as good news for Hillary's opponents to right and left – and almost as disheartening to her supporters. It is at least as telling on this score as the news that she has recently loaned her campaign $5 million of her "personal" money.

Most likely, both things are true: Hillary is now more interested in getting her $5 million back than she is in maximizing her chances of winning. She is no longer fighting for the nomination.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: clinton; dumbvanity; hillary; stupidvanity
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To: DWPittelli
"Hillary is now more interested in getting her $5 million back than she is in maximizing her chances of winning."

She should start an "Hillary Clinton Defense Fund", a sure winner for an infusion of ChiCom cash.

yitbos

21 posted on 02/22/2008 6:11:04 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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To: plain talk

I am not a liberal. I am a classical liberal, which would be closer to a small “l” libertarian than anything else. I believe in a minimal federal government whose budget primarily consists of military defense and a criminal justice system (for those few crimes which are truly federal because they take place in more than one state, or are against a federal institution or property). I do not have a problem with such things as public roads and public funding of primary and secondary education, although I see little scope for the federal government in either.


22 posted on 02/22/2008 6:11:25 PM PST by DWPittelli
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To: cripplecreek
Absolutely.

But eventually he is going to have to show his hand. And decisively, too. Can’t be a flip-flopper.

23 posted on 02/22/2008 6:14:38 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: DWPittelli
Thinking about voting Libertarian this year. I’ll write-in if necessary. Don’t like McCain at all.

And I am not a rank and file GOP Republican. I can think for myself.

24 posted on 02/22/2008 6:17:08 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: traditional1

***IF the Democrat wins the election, it’s not because the Republican Conservative voters let the Party down, it’s because the Party let the Conservative voters down, period.***

I hope you like socialized medicine.


25 posted on 02/22/2008 6:17:08 PM PST by kitkat
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To: Snickering Hound

I keep hearing that there are too many Democrats out there who do not want her. Then again I heard that in 2000 in NY. I grew up in the same neighborhood as Chuck Schumer and Ruth Bader Ginsberg and I heard then from some of my former classmates that no one wanted Hillary and yet she won. I’ll only count her out after the DNC Convention.


26 posted on 02/22/2008 6:18:16 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft
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To: traditional1
IF the Democrat wins the election, it's not because the Republican Conservative voters let the Party down, it's because the Party let the Conservative voters down, period.

What self serving BS. If the Republicans would lose this election because the some conservatives sat out the election it's a loss for both Republicans and the conservatives who showed themselves unwilling to vote for anyone other than who they think is best. Everyone loses.

On the other hand if McCain wins while some spoiled children with hold their votes then the spoiled children lose big.

Either way those who would sit the election out lose all right to call themselves the base of the party.

A real base wouldn't act so spoiled.

27 posted on 02/22/2008 6:18:36 PM PST by billva
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To: DWPittelli
She is no longer fighting for the nomination.

You are out of your mind. The Clinton's will be fighting for the 2008 nomination until the last vote is counted. The day that they lose the 2008 nomination will be the 1st day they begin fighting for the 2012 nomination. That means Barrack Obama's biggest challenge isn't John McLame, it's the Clinton's who will make sure Obama suffers the same fate as McGovern.

28 posted on 02/22/2008 6:22:18 PM PST by hflynn ( Soros would not make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: kitkat

History...

Many of us were angry with Bush “one” and wanted to show our anger by voting for Ross Perot. Perot pulled out of course. However, our anger lost the pres election to Clinton.

However, Republicans won control of Congress shortly after and did many, many great things.

Unfortunately, they lost their way a few years later.

You win some, you lose some.


29 posted on 02/22/2008 6:26:24 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: DWPittelli

That bitch will never give up.

It’s a ploy.


30 posted on 02/22/2008 6:27:27 PM PST by bannie (clintons CHEAT! ALLLLLWAYS!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

You’re right, she’s been running for president for 50 years, she’s not giving up now. If I were Obama, I’d be watching my back. He might come down with that weird skin disease Michael Jackson has. That’ll level the playing field, white women vs. formerly black man.


31 posted on 02/22/2008 6:27:44 PM PST by conservit
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To: billva
...What self serving BS. If the Republicans would lose this election because the some conservatives sat out the election it's a loss for both Republicans and the conservatives who showed themselves unwilling to vote for anyone other than who they think is best. Everyone loses...

I disagree. If Macaca wins, Social-Conservatives LOSE BIG TIME. Social-Conservatives must show They have PRINCIPLES and the courage to abide by them if they are going to be taken seriously the next time around. Let the 'other' conservatives do what they will... If they are willing to show that they were ALL BARK AND NOT BITE... let them do it. We must be different.

KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE BALL SOCIAL-CONSERVATIVES! :)

32 posted on 02/22/2008 6:29:38 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck :))
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To: billva
On the other hand if McCain wins [loses?] while some spoiled children with hold their votes then the spoiled children lose big.

You have a point. But I do have the luxury of living in a state (Massachusetts) which will never make a difference in the general election, so I can withhold my vote with impunity. Further, my problem with McCain isn't that he's not quite a pure enough conservative. McCain Feingold is an abomination to the First Amendment which transcends such categories. Furthermore, I think he's temperamentally unsuited to the Presidency (as are the Clintons). We don't need another rage-aholic in the White House.
33 posted on 02/22/2008 6:32:03 PM PST by DWPittelli
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To: cripplecreek

“In my opinion, voting for a losing (or even winning-BCC) McCain is only encouraging the GOP further leftward so I’m writing my conservative choice in come November.”

I too will be writing in my choice. Where have all the conservatives goon?


34 posted on 02/22/2008 6:32:12 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (If "there are no losers here," then there are no winners here. ><BCC>NRA)
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To: DWPittelli
If she had conceded a week ago, I know of one cop that would still be alive.
35 posted on 02/22/2008 6:35:18 PM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: DWPittelli
I am not a liberal. I am a classical liberal

Oh, an intellectual. Have fun constantly explaining what a "classic liberal" is. :-) But I fully understand what you're saying. In today's world you are a garden variety libertarian. Thanks for clearing that up.

36 posted on 02/22/2008 6:38:41 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Blue Collar Christian

I had also said that I could never vote for McCain, but realize the other choice is impossible to consider. I will vote for McCain because I can not stand the thought of Obama or Hillary in the White House.


37 posted on 02/22/2008 6:38:42 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: DWPittelli
I am a classical liberal,..

I do not have a problem with such things as public roads and public funding of primary and secondary education, although I see little scope for the federal government in either...

I had no idea there was such a thing as a "Classical Liberal".

You have told me what you "don't have" a problem with, please do tell me what you do have a problem with...

Very curious........

38 posted on 02/22/2008 6:41:17 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam: Bringing the world death and destruction for 1400 years!)
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To: dhs12345

History...

Ginsburg and Breyer didn’t lose their way...

Your anger lost a lot more than the presidency...


39 posted on 02/22/2008 6:41:51 PM PST by BamaBlue
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To: billva

Not acting spoiled. Some might call it integrity.

If the choice is to vote for someone who is less crappy than someone else, I’ll chose a third option.

And even though McCain has “found God” on the illegal immigration issue, I don’t believe him.

Quote from the Godfather that applies — “You need to have a war every ten years or so to get rid of all the bad blood.”

If the Republican party fractures, so be it.


40 posted on 02/22/2008 6:43:35 PM PST by dhs12345
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