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Where have all the sunspots gone?
Watts Up With That? ^ | 02/13/2008 | Watts Up With That?

Posted on 02/15/2008 4:54:28 PM PST by TheHound

It is normal for our sun to have quiet periods between solar cycles, but we’ve seen months and months of next to nothing, and the start of Solar cycle 24 seems to have materialized (as first reported here) then abruptly disappeared.

Given the current quietness of the sun and it’s magnetic field, combined with the late start to cycle 24 with even possibly a false start, it appears that the sun has slowed it’s internal dynamo to a similar level such as was seen during the Dalton Minimum. One of the things about the Dalton Minimum was that it started with a skipped solar cycle, which also coincided with a very long solar cycle 4 from 1784-1799. The longer our current cycle 23 lasts before we see a true ramp up of cycle 24, the greater chance it seems then that cycle 24 will be a low one.

No wonder there is so much talk recently about global cooling. I certainly hope that’s wrong, because a Dalton type solar minimum would be very bad for our world economy and agriculture. NASA GISS published a release back in 2003 that agrees with the commonly accepted idea that long period trends in solar activity do affect our climate by changing the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI).

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KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; globalwarming; solar; sunspots
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I have noticed this being reported all over the MSM. Not.
1 posted on 02/15/2008 4:54:28 PM PST by TheHound
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To: TheHound

Maybe they are with the missing honey bees?

Or...Has the sun been spotted over the Bermuda Triangle recently?

Works on so many levels.


2 posted on 02/15/2008 4:56:50 PM PST by Duke Nukum (I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.)
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To: TheHound

Yea move along nothing here.


3 posted on 02/15/2008 4:58:41 PM PST by Bailee
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To: TheHound

Crap, we better start burning more fossil fuels to create more greenhouse gases to trap in the heat! GO GLOBAL WARMING


4 posted on 02/15/2008 4:59:07 PM PST by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)
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To: TheHound

The Dalton Minimum was a period of low solar activity, lasting from about 1790 to 1830. It coincided with a period of lower than average global temperatures. Low solar activity seems to be strongly correlated with global cooling.

All I hear from the democrat party and their moron “mainstream” media, is continued calls to make criticism of the GlobalWarmism hoax a crime!

Come and get me, coppers! You’ll never take me alive!


5 posted on 02/15/2008 5:00:52 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: TheHound

Damn - is this why I am freezing butt in Sunny California every morning? San Jose to be exact.

Before last year, this area had not seen snow capped peaks in about 30 years. Now two years in a row.

Never seen absolute cold like this for years.

Shite.


6 posted on 02/15/2008 5:01:12 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: TheHound
Yes I also have noticed this being reported all over the MSM.

Not.

7 posted on 02/15/2008 5:02:21 PM PST by R_Kangel (`.`)
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I was out there in the Spring of 1987. There were snowcaps visible from the new San Jose post office and the old San Jose post office.

People were amazed to see them though.

8 posted on 02/15/2008 5:03:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: The_Republican

Obviously, it is so cold in S.CA due to global warming.


9 posted on 02/15/2008 5:04:16 PM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: 11th Commandment
We used to spread power plant cinders on the roads in winter;the sunlight was absorbed by the dark particles,warming them and causing the snow and ice on the road to melt away faster.Also the gritty cinders aided traction .Salt melts the snow so that it can re-freeze overnight even smoother and more dangerous;that is,unless you use a LOT of salt and it is not so cold the chemical reaction stops.

There used to be a number of effective,low tech, inexpensive solutions to many problems....why did they a;ll get put aside?

10 posted on 02/15/2008 5:05:50 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: muawiyah

I could be wrong then about the 30 year number....


11 posted on 02/15/2008 5:06:01 PM PST by The_Republican (You know why Chelsea Clinton is so Ugly? Because Janet Reno is her Father! LOL! - Mac is Back!)
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To: TheHound
The GW crowd will soon realize that the solar cycle is cooling the Earth. They will then set about declaring that the “natural” cooling is masking the “man made” warming.

To prove this they will pull excessively cold predictions out of their collective butts and declare man made global warming when they do not occur.

12 posted on 02/15/2008 5:07:05 PM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: xcamel

For your global warming PING LIST!


13 posted on 02/15/2008 5:07:09 PM PST by CedarDave ("Change" - What's left in your pocket after Obama or Hillary increase your or your employer's taxes)
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To: TheHound

14 posted on 02/15/2008 5:07:32 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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Now we know where Obama got his magnetism.....he stole it from the Sun!


15 posted on 02/15/2008 5:09:10 PM PST by IssuesOriented
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To: The_Republican
Think back ~ 1987 ~ when 1986/87 was a widespread drought year ~ just like 2007. Then, bottom of a solar cycle. A September hurricane knocked out the drought in the Mid-Atlantic and SE that time. We didn't have any meaningful hurricanes in 2007 so the SE drought persisted.

There's a 21/22 year cycle of drought in North America and China. It can happen in different quadrants, but it will happen Fur Shur.

It's the cool, dry air that creates the drought ~ dries everything out.

Still, by 1990 and 1991 we had so many solar flares it was difficult to keep DEC equipment up and running inside a steel/concrete office building.

We'll know in a short time if this cycle will ever really grow.

16 posted on 02/15/2008 5:11:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TheHound

The JOOOOOSSSSS stole them!!!


17 posted on 02/15/2008 5:11:50 PM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: SampleMan

Thats why its already been revised to global climate change.


18 posted on 02/15/2008 5:15:20 PM PST by John W
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To: muawiyah

Better stock up on Ammo, Diesel, and Groceries.


19 posted on 02/15/2008 5:15:36 PM PST by Bailee
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To: Duke Nukum

It turns out the only honeybees that are really having a problem are the ones that are bred commercially, where the eggs mature in honeycomb cells that are bigger than wild honeycomb cells (the fungus or microbe that goes after them does better in the bigger cells, killing off maturing bees). Wild honeybees are not suffering this problem, only the ones people gave bigger honeycombs to produce larger bees.


20 posted on 02/15/2008 5:17:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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