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Global warming blamed for unusual cold spell
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=11&art_id=61512&sid=17581089&con_type=1 ^

Posted on 02/14/2008 1:56:26 PM PST by chessplayer

As Hong Kong shivers through its second-longest cold spell since 1885, scientists point to global warming to explain the abnormal cold weather phenomenon worldwide.

"We are seeing extremely unusual weather across the world," said polar researcher Rebecca Lee Lok-sze.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestandard.com.hk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; alternateuniverse; climatechange; doomage; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenpeace; greenreligion; greenspirit; patrickmoore; wearedoomed; winter
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To: melstew
I am very concerned about climate change and the immense amount of disinformation that both “sides” are willing to throw out. The issues are very complicated, very debatable, and very serious. To dismiss anyone who is concerned about the issue as an idiot or a druid—is closed minded and cowardly.

I'm sorry as I did not mean to offend you personally. However, it wasn't until even recently the "anti's" were even given a platform let alone listened to.

The Left has had an agenda for a long time and they are using Global Warming as the vehicle to change things their way.

Even Kyoto was political. It's been mentioned before on FR but do you know why Kyoto decided to make 1990 the baseline for carbon spewing? If not, poke around.

The climate has been changing for as long as the Earth has been here. And in just the span of a generation we've gone from fear of a new iceage to fear of no ice. And we are just supposed to shutup and listen as "they" know what's best for us.

161 posted on 02/15/2008 12:35:28 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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To: sean327
Riddle me this BatMan, isn’t it still winter in the Northern Hemispher?

Yes it is, and summer in the Southern Hemisphere (Antarctica, Australia, etc.).

Haven't heard too much about all that "summer meltoff" in Antarctica this year, have we....

I guess polar bears are cuter (or "cooler") than penguins....

162 posted on 02/15/2008 3:12:56 AM PST by dirtbiker (Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most...)
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To: melstew
"disinformation"

Fine. Then you are sending e-mails and letters to all the media outlets to start printing and airing opposing points of view to GW. In fact you never see those dissenters on any media outlets. Which is why the people on this forum who have been deluged with GW misinformation love to point out the fallacies of the GW promoters that Big Media will not.

163 posted on 02/15/2008 3:26:08 AM PST by driftless2
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To: All

Little stick figures running back and forth please.


164 posted on 02/15/2008 3:31:21 AM PST by bmwcyle (the Beltway crowd is like a bunch of women who have started menstruating together)
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To: businessprofessor
It is also a perfect mechanism for Marxism.

Just like any economic disturbance is a perfect vehicle for Marxism (say, for instance, the recent hysteria about recession) even though Marxism may have (usually does) cause the economic disturbance. Just apply more Marxist principles and the problem will go away. And if it doesn't, it means that we STILL weren't Marxist enough.

165 posted on 02/15/2008 3:45:31 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: chessplayer
"War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength."

"...and Cooling is Warming"

Cheers!

166 posted on 02/15/2008 3:52:31 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: TigersEye; BraveMan; FBD
"Changing the facts to suit yourself is worse than sticking your head in the sand IMNHO."

BWWWWWHAAAAAAA!!

Or to quote R. Heinlein: "He was the kind who'd hit himself in the head with a hammer, because it felt so good when it was over."

Unbelievable?

..believe it. :o)

167 posted on 02/15/2008 4:37:47 AM PST by Landru (~& when the band you're in starts playing *different * tunes...)
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To: farmer18th
In other words global warming is about warming when it’s warming and cooling when it’s cooling and grants when grants are being given out.

In other words global warming is about...grants...being given out.

Bingo.

168 posted on 02/15/2008 4:46:15 AM PST by Entrepreneur (The environmental movement is filled with watermelons - green on the outside, red on the inside)
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To: melstew; TigersEye

Marked, for detailed comments and corrections later.


169 posted on 02/15/2008 5:25:39 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001; BraveMan; FBD; TigersEye
"Rebecca Lee Lok-sze"

Long lost sister.

...of Loctite?

170 posted on 02/15/2008 6:09:14 AM PST by Landru (~& when the band you're in starts playing *different * tunes...)
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To: RockyMtnMan

Smoe feel the is a correlation between low solar activity and the appearance of La Nina’s.....If you google solar activity and La Nina you will see numerous articles on the subject. Conversely there are many articles about high solar activity and El Nino’s...
http://www.john-daly.com/sun-enso/sun-enso.htm

Solar Activity Controls El Niño and La Niña
by

Dr Theodor Landscheidt

Schroeter Institute for Research in Cycles of Solar Activity

Nova Scotia, Canada


171 posted on 02/15/2008 6:24:18 AM PST by milwguy (........)
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To: milwguy

Imagine that, the sun can affect the temperature of the earth! We should relay this important scientific discovery to Al Gore.

Makes sense that the suns output heats the oceans more or less and causes the natural cycle of El and La Nino’s. The correlation is pretty solid and the data is easily interpreted.

I suspect the magnetic field of the earth plays the biggest role in all of this. When the Sun is at its peak intensity the field is stretched and thinner which allows more solar radiation to hit the earth. More radiation equals more heat, thereby heating the oceans and releasing more water vapor into the atmosphere (a green house gas).

When the sun is relatively inactive the magnetic field is highly efficient at blocking solar radiation (much like trying to crush a un-cracked egg in your hand). This will naturally allow the earth to cool and the water vapor to settle on earth or evaporate, reducing the green house effect.

Given that CO2 accounts for .01% of the atmosphere it should be clear to everyone carbon credits is a bunch of horse pucky.


172 posted on 02/15/2008 6:54:34 AM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: chessplayer
"Global warming blamed for unusual cold spell"

Headline should read: LEFTIST ENVIROMENTALIST STUPIDITY BLAMED ON GLOBAL WARMING
173 posted on 02/15/2008 7:12:07 AM PST by FrankR (Election 2008: is land really that cheap in Costa Rica?)
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To: Landru; TigersEye; BraveMan; melstew

>”Unbelievable?

..believe it.”<

-gentlemen, one thing, I do believe?
- Coggy-tator has a Kool-Aid drinking soul-mate.
;^D


174 posted on 02/15/2008 7:53:50 AM PST by FBD ("I am sure that Senator Clinton would make a good president," ~ John McCain on NBC's "Meet the Press)
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To: FBD
"-gentlemen, one thing, I do believe? - Coggy-tator has a Kool-Aid drinking soul-mate."

Undoubtedly the same employer.

..as well.

175 posted on 02/15/2008 7:57:10 AM PST by Landru (~& when the band you're in starts playing *different * tunes...)
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To: RockyMtnMan; melstew; TigersEye
My understanding is, it’s the cosmic radiation, that forms clouds, and solar cycles w/sunspot flareups deflect the clouds, causing it to get warmer. Tigers Eye can back me up on that one.

Excellent article on that here, with comments by Dr. Peter Corbyn (meteorologist), and Professor Nir Shaviv, (an astrophysicist), and Professor Ian Clark (Department of Earth Science-University of Ottawa):


globalwarming-is-due-to-sun-activity-and-not-co2

“In 1991, a senior scientist of the Danish Meteorological Institute has traced back records and graphed temperature and solar activity through the measure of amount of sunspots. And the solar activity showed a strong correlation with temperature where solar activity dropped in 1940 and started rising again in 1970.

Although in this study, they have thought this may be a coincidence, thus further study was done looking back 400 years and the same results have appeared....”


http://www.goglobalwarmingawareness2007.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/global-temperature-cosmic-rays-500-million-years.jpg


“The theory of cloud formation due to cosmic rays where cosmic rays hit the ocean surface causing much water vapor in the air contributing to the amount of clouds. This brought about another theory where when there were more sunspots, there were less cosmic rays. And with more cosmic rays, there were less sunspots.

Since sunspots give rise to strong burst of electromagnetic waves and solar wind, it is perceived that these solar winds are able to divert cosmic rays which usually come from exploded super nova.”

.

176 posted on 02/15/2008 8:18:05 AM PST by FBD ("I am sure that Senator Clinton would make a good president," ~ John McCain on NBC's "Meet the Press)
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To: RockyMtnMan
Is it La Nina or the current low activity on the sun? We are in a shift to the next solar cycle and sunspot activity is unusually low.

Both.

La Ninas/El Ninos are well-documented phenomena.

So are solar cycles.

177 posted on 02/15/2008 8:29:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: RockyMtnMan
Imagine that, the sun can affect the temperature of the earth!

You wouldn't think that the sun could make that HUGE of an impact on temperature at all... especially when you look at a size comparison of the planets and sun:

No... I can't see how the sun might cause some heating can you?

178 posted on 02/15/2008 8:36:55 AM PST by RogerWilko
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To: milwguy

Way cool link! Do you mind if I nab it?


179 posted on 02/15/2008 11:05:14 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

That is why I posted it. It is wonderful to see the collective brainpower and research ability of a site like this harnessed to debunk the enviro wacko left wing on the GW issue. Spread the link, spread the word, and help me shovel the 80 inches of snow we have had so far this winter, with another 6-12 coming on sunday in SE wisconsin!


180 posted on 02/15/2008 11:13:39 AM PST by milwguy (........)
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