Posted on 02/12/2008 9:29:34 PM PST by MNJohnnie
After more than a year of wrangling, the Senate handed the White House a major victory on Tuesday by voting to broaden the governments spy powers and to give legal protection to phone companies that cooperated in President Bushs program of eavesdropping without warrants.
One by one, the Senate rejected amendments that would have imposed greater civil liberties checks on the governments surveillance powers. Finally, the Senate voted 68 to 29 to approve legislation that the White House had been pushing for months. Mr. Bush hailed the vote and urged the House to move quickly in following the Senates lead.
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“FR Class of 1998” - In your dumping on this security measure for our nation, you employ a deceptive handle.
You, in fact, came on FR on 2008-01-03 and are thereby a NEWBY. You wouldn’t be a TROLL - would you, dear one???????????????????????????????????????????????????
I’m far from a troll, and I agree with his stance wholeheartedly.
Nice liberal tactic; Don’t try and debate his arguement on it’s merits vs. your opinion, just call him names and move along...
Hi, fake name newbie.
We are intercepting communications from a foreign target. I want it audited and monitored with critical oversight, but I want it done.
Ever hear of the BATFE?
Funny how the same people in hysterics about this did not mind when they were monitoring "militas" and "right wing hate groups".
Had you been a freeper prior to 2004, you would know better.
Although I wouldn’t be selling life insurance to Obama.
Funny girl, you are. Now CLOSE YOUR TAGS!
Hello again, Doug. So if Hillary put the term ‘Peter Paul’ on the monitoring list, you would be OK with that?
Thanks for the confirmation, trollop.
Thank you
Dodd voted against it, Lieberman voted for it.
You don’t realize it, but you just outed yourself as the “newby” by not realizing the significance of closing your tags. So you hopped on the bandwagon in 2004, eh? How’d that work out for you?
THANKS FOR THE CONFIRMATION, TROLLOP.
There is NO WAY anyone will know that he is covertly recording them as he walking around in these OBVIOUSLY ordinary sunglasses.
You are correct. If there’s truly a terrorist threat, there should be a no problem getting the proper warrants to spy. This bill allows the ability to spy on anyone for anything, with no judicial review. It’s a threat to the separation of powers and it’s just saddening seeing so many supposed conservatives on this board cheering the further erosion of liberty. If people really think it will be used only to combat terrorism, they’re terribly naive.
I’m very surprised by Byrd’s and Conrad’s No, as well as in Inouye’s Yes.
Mildly surprised about Rockefeller’s Yes and Harkin’s No.
Others about where I would expect.
As far as Hitlery and O’Dumbo’s “No vote”, well, that speaks volumes about their political courage, as well as their sense of responsibility to America and Americans. I hope the McCain makes this vote a centerpiece issue.
There have been years of debate about this. The Senators who voted on their constituents’ behalf listened to the arguments and have agreed with The President. To characterize this as being rushed through the halls of Congress is simply disingenuous. You may not agree with the result of the vote, but to say it has not been carefully considered in all aspects, including airing arguments such as, “what happens with future liberal judges...”, is clearly incorrect.
I’m not so sure. Let’s see how “good” it is when Obama or Hillary Clinton is listening in on our conversations.
I agree. These are my feelings as well.
However, I doubt that the above-described situation will come again this side of chaos. It will take a complete, 1991-USSR-style collapse of the social-economic-political system in this country to break the hold of the Forces of Evil on the United States... a cure that in many ways would be worse than the disease.
Sorry to be so negative. I simply cannot see any painless or pleasant way out of the current situation. Until the Gods of the Copybook Headings limp up to explain it all again, my strategy is going to be to hunker down, pray, and keep my family and loved ones alive.
According to the US Senate’s roll call tally for this vote, no GOP’s voted “nay,” but one abstained: L. Graham (SC) of “Saddlesore Canyon” fame.
Does this vote bring you any closer to voting for McCain?
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