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Wilderness plan closes trails to bikes
The Durango Herald ^
| January 23, 2008
| Katie Burford
Posted on 01/23/2008 9:52:22 AM PST by george76
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Beaurocrazies acting as if Congress had acted.
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posted on
01/23/2008 9:52:23 AM PST
by
george76
To: george76
This is nuts! Public lands should be for recreation. I can understand keeping motorized vehicles out of some areas but not mountain bikes.
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posted on
01/23/2008 9:58:38 AM PST
by
jazusamo
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: jazusamo; marsh2; trussell; XeniaSt; SunkenCiv
” A favorite tool used by these well-funded organizations is the Wilderness Act of 1964. This law was enacted originally to preserve 9 million acres of wilderness so “future generations could see what their forefathers had to conquer.”
Now, there are 702 officially designated Wilderness Areas, covering 107.4 million acres. “
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:00:40 AM PST
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: george76
I grew up in this area. The portion of trail they are talking about is really spectacular. I’m not a mountain biker, but I used to hike and hunt in that area. The Hermosa Cliffs north of Durango are beautiful and are featured in many postcards of the area. Truly a magnificent ride/hike. It would be a shame if idiot bureaucrats mucked it all up for everyone (but why should we expect anything different?).
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:01:42 AM PST
by
Pablo64
(What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
To: george76
Banning bicycles. Incredible.
A non-polluting device that moves tourists quickly from bathroom
to bathroom.
Thus lowering the pollution load they’ll leave on the wilderness by
needing to stop and relieve themselves while hiking down the same path.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:03:42 AM PST
by
VOA
To: jazusamo
Public lands should be for recreation. Public means you are not allowed except by permission.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:03:45 AM PST
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
To: george76
Well, so many roads have been closed to National Parks, so you can’t drive into them any more. Now the bureacrats at the USDA want to up the ante, and the precedent has been set. What’s to stop them? Bikers?
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:04:11 AM PST
by
TenthAmendmentChampion
(Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
To: RightWhale
Unfortunately you are correct, and more so as time passes.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:06:14 AM PST
by
jazusamo
(DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
To: george76
Hahahahaha! I laugh because I'll bet many of the mountain bikers that are now freaking were in forefront to get these "wilderness" designations in the first place and to ban activities they didn't like in those areas (like motorized vehicles, hunting, etc). They're just shocked it's coming around to bite them in the ass.
To: Pablo64
Is horseback riding allowed in that area? Just curious.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:12:59 AM PST
by
Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
(If MY people who are called by MY name -- the ball's in our court, folks.)
To: Pablo64
" It would be a shame if idiot bureaucrats mucked it all up for everyone..."
But that's what bureaucrats do - day after day after day. And guess who gets to pay for it?
Carolyn
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:13:09 AM PST
by
CDHart
("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
To: GATOR NAVY
I laugh because I'll bet many of the mountain bikers that are now freaking were in forefront to get these "wilderness" designations in the first place and to ban activities they didn't like in those areas Mountain bikers have been fighting for places to ride ever since the first mountain bikes were created. Hikers and horse back riders have been unwilling to share trails with them from the start.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:18:43 AM PST
by
Dixie Yooper
(Ephesians 6:11)
To: VOA
We own a ranch that is completely surrounded by National Forest. The mountain bikers leave the Forest trails so that they can pass through our ranch. They tear down “No Trespassing” signs and mouth off if told they are trespassing. They pee and defecate where they are when the urge strikes, and they drink out of plastic bottles and aluminum cans which they throw on the ground.
They ride through soft mud leaving deep ruts that remain all year when the soil hardens.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:19:10 AM PST
by
passionfruit
(When illegals become legal, even they won't do work American's won't do)
To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
It is as far as I know. We moved from the area about 10 years ago, so things might have changed. Most horseback riders would likely avoid the really popular mountain bike trails, though, just to avoid collisions. Sometimes those bikers really come flying down the trail (not always, but in some certain spots) and in some places, there may not be a lot of room with a horse to get off the trail in a hurry.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:20:20 AM PST
by
Pablo64
(What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
To: RightWhale
This is simply one group attempting to grab exclusive use of public lands for their activities. The enviro-jihadists are on the march or should I say hike. In Colorado they have banned 4-wheeling in many formally popular places, now bikes. These Sierra Club type hikers are spoiled brats that don’t know how to share. BLM and national forest lands are to be multi-use, sometimes that includes mining, ranching, recreation, hunting, biking, motor-sports, climbing, timber harvesting and even hiking. If they are to be exclusively used by any one interest then the land is essentially as if it were private. In that case the land should be sold to the highest bidder - in the mean time I suggest that the Sierra Club fork over the equivalent property tax for all the public land they think they own (a couple of billion dollars would come close).
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:21:10 AM PST
by
DaveyB
(Ignorance is part of the human condition - atheism makes it permanent!)
To: george76
Yeah, and the kayakers hate the trout fishermen.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:21:11 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: DaveyB
As far as I am concerned there should be no such thing as public land. Not even public easements. 1% of Alaska is in private ownership, which is what drew my attention to this abuse of ownership.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:24:20 AM PST
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
To: CDHart
I know [sigh]. By now you'd think I wouldn't even have that little spark of hope left, but I try to be the optimist.
Things have really changed around the Durango area since I grew up there and I know I could never live there again, but the natural beauty of the country in that part of Colorado is spectacular. It's part of what keeps drawing people there. That and the access to so many outdoor activities from one central location (hiking, biking, skiing, fishing, rafting, hunting, etc.)
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:24:37 AM PST
by
Pablo64
(What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
To: Pablo64
We spent a week in Colorado last June. Went to Pike's Peak, Royal Gorge, etc. We found a dirt road near the Royal Gorge, I think it was Phantom Trail, and we were the only ones on it for miles. Just followed our nose over the mountain - the most spectacular thing I've ever seen. We would love to go back.
Carolyn
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:39:36 AM PST
by
CDHart
("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
To: Dixie Yooper
Mountain bikers have been fighting for places to ride ever since the first mountain bikes were created. Hikers and horse back riders have been unwilling to share trails with them from the start.Qft. I used to mountain bike back around 1990-95. Horses on the trail would sometimes freak out at a moving bike. And the rider would look at us like it was somehow our fault that their animal was skittish.
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posted on
01/23/2008 10:45:54 AM PST
by
Eddeche
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