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Ancient Islamic Texts Resurface (Impugning The Legitimacy of the Koran,Islam)
The Third Eye Concept ^ | January 14, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 01/19/2008 2:38:36 AM PST by america4vr

Islam watchers blogged all weekend about news that a secret archive of ancient Islamic texts had surfaced after 60 years of suppression. Andrew Higgins' Wall Street Journal report that the photographic record of Koranic manuscripts, supposedly destroyed during World War II but occulted by a scholar of alleged Nazi sympathies, reads like a conflation of the Da Vinci Code with Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail.

The Da Vinci Code offered a silly fantasy in which Opus Dei, homicidal monks and twisted billionaires chased after proof that Christianity is a hoax. But the story of the photographic archive of the Bavarian Academy of Sciences, now ensconced in a Berlin vault, is a case of life imitating truly dreadful art. It even has Nazis. "I hate those guys!" as Indiana Jones said.

No one is going to produce proof that Jesus Christ did not rise from the grave three days after the Crucifixion, of course. Humankind will choose to believe or not that God revealed Himself in this fashion. But Islam stands at risk of a Da Vinci Code effect, for in Islam, God's self-revelation took the form not of the Exodus, nor the revelation at Mount Sinai, nor the Resurrection, but rather a book, namely the Koran. The Encyclopaedia of Islam (1982) observes, "The closest analogue in Christian belief to the role of the Koran in Muslim belief is not the Bible, but Christ." The Koran alone is the revelatory event in Islam.

What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?

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What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?

That would be the precise equivalent of proving that the Jesus Christ of the Gospels really was a composite of several individuals, some of whom lived a century or two apart.

I read the Atlantic Monthly article mentioned here whereby archaeologists discovered Yemeni texts used in the Koran predating it by hundreds of years.

This is an overwhelmingly explosive assertion in that it claims to provide direct evidence that impugns Islam to utter illegitimacy.

1 posted on 01/19/2008 2:38:39 AM PST by america4vr
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To: america4vr
There were many versions of Koran just after Muhammad died. At the Caliphs order, they’re all destroyed but the ‘official’ one.
2 posted on 01/19/2008 2:41:45 AM PST by paudio (Rose: I loath and despise money! Father: You also spend it!)
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To: america4vr

Ping


3 posted on 01/19/2008 2:48:03 AM PST by a77 (McCain for President)
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To: paudio
There were many versions of Koran just after Muhammad died. At the Caliphs order, they’re all destroyed but the ‘official’ one.

The alternative versions were ordered destroyed, but I believe there are other copies of material other than this new stuff that proves that there were other copies. I am sure the rank and file muslim is not aware of that sort of information, however.

4 posted on 01/19/2008 2:52:21 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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Here is the direct link of the story to Asia Times
Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code
5 posted on 01/19/2008 2:55:17 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: highlander_UW
I am sure the rank and file muslim is not aware of that sort of information, however.
Absolutely. That information would only serve to diminish belief as being "divinely inspired".
6 posted on 01/19/2008 2:58:32 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: america4vr
Luxenburg's thesis became notorious for explaining that the "virgins" provided to Islamic jihadis in paradise were only raisins

I don't know about the jihadists, but it I got raisins instead of virgins, I'd be a little disappointed.

7 posted on 01/19/2008 2:58:35 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Mike Huckabee: If Gomer Pyle and Hugo Chavez had a love child this is who it would be.)
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To: america4vr

Maybe, but they have millions brainwashed with this crap.


8 posted on 01/19/2008 3:00:57 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: america4vr

While stationed in Teheran from 1972 to 1974, I was able to study the Iranian society. What I learned from that experience, to include the events of radical Islam to today, brought me to the conclusion that the Islamic faith is now in the throws of its own end of the Dark Ages. This find, in my opinion, only reinforces my conclusions.


9 posted on 01/19/2008 3:02:26 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Unfortunately for the West, virgins do make for a much more powerful motivator as reward for martyrdom.

Lucky for Hamas that the scriptures have been taken to be translated as "virgins" instead of the more precise meaning of "raisins". It would be a damn nearly impossible task convincing a disillusioned fifteen year old to blow himself up along with as many Jews as possible for the likes of seventy-two raisins.

10 posted on 01/19/2008 3:05:21 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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This is an overwhelmingly explosive assertion in that it claims to provide direct evidence that impugns Islam to utter illegitimacy.

Any religion that has as one of major tenets the murder of the members of other religions does not have a whole lot of cache in the legitimacy department as far as i am concerned.

11 posted on 01/19/2008 3:10:22 AM PST by verga (I'm not an apologist i just play one on TV)
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To: america4vr; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
72 raisins


12 posted on 01/19/2008 3:11:48 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?

It will make what went on over those Danish cartoons look, well, cartoonish.

13 posted on 01/19/2008 3:16:57 AM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: dayglored
You know, you may be on to something here with your poster.
If Israel were to broadcast this as the sort of "virgin" any would-be martyr might expect to be greeted by
(at the gates of hell, that is) this martyrdom stuff would be effectively nullified.
14 posted on 01/19/2008 3:19:53 AM PST by america4vr (The ebb and flow of empires have come and gone but America shall forever reign supreme.)
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To: paudio

There were many Gospels, too, in the early centuries of the Church. Only Church establishment approved Gospels made it into the Bible.


15 posted on 01/19/2008 3:19:59 AM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: DooDahhhh
Maybe, but they have millions brainwashed with this crap.

So have Democrats, Socialists and Marxists with their "risky schemes", but I repeat myself.....

16 posted on 01/19/2008 3:29:04 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Video here.
17 posted on 01/19/2008 3:29:18 AM PST by naturalized ("The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!")
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What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources?


I think it was about 3 years ago we had an article posted here about an ancient quran being found in China.


18 posted on 01/19/2008 3:34:04 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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GGG?


19 posted on 01/19/2008 3:36:23 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: america4vr
There was this...

now there's THIS.


20 posted on 01/19/2008 3:40:42 AM PST by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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