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To: paudio

There were many Gospels, too, in the early centuries of the Church. Only Church establishment approved Gospels made it into the Bible.


15 posted on 01/19/2008 3:19:59 AM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: SatinDoll

Yes, but those materials never made into the Bible that we know today in the first place, and I’m not aware if the church leaders ordered them to be destroyed (hidden, perhaps). The Bible is like an edited book with God as the editor (through the Church Fathers), so no doubt that there are many ‘gospels’ didn’t make to the book, and Christians know this. Muslims believe that the Koran was given to Muhammad in the Nuzulul Quran night as a complete book. So, IMO, Christians shouldn’t be surprised nor confused if there are other materials that are similar to the Bible. That’s not the case with Muslims and Koran.


38 posted on 01/19/2008 5:59:45 AM PST by paudio (Rose: I loath and despise money! Father: You also spend it!)
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To: SatinDoll

“Only Church establishment approved Gospels made it into the Bible.”

Yes, but for very sound and strict reasons, which are still defensible to this day, if we were just starting the same project.


40 posted on 01/19/2008 6:42:41 AM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: SatinDoll
But there ARE four Gospels, which differ considerably. What if the Church has used only one, say Luke, as the heretic Marion did? The Muslims settled on one book which they call the Qu’ran. What has always struck me is that the same skeptics who so critically analyzed the Bible have accepted the Muslim claim of the validity of the Qu’ran with hardly a murmur. I thiubk it has to do with the fact that the Qu'ran denies the Incarnation, which is the principal objection that the Enlightenment had to the New Testament and few of the supernatural touches that characterize the whole Biblical record. The Qu'ran reads more like Jeremiah or Isaiah. The Qu'ran specifically denies the divinity of Jesus and treats him as just a Prophet who preceded Mohammed.
87 posted on 01/19/2008 9:44:29 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: SatinDoll
"There were many Gospels, too, in the early centuries of the Church. Only Church establishment approved Gospels made it into the Bible."

Correct.

And that is because the Bible is the inspired word of God. God did not whisper each word of the Bible into the ears of the people who wrote the Bible. Rather, the Bible is a collection of works that were written under the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit. How do we know this? Because a number of people have discerned God's Spirit within the writings that are now the Bible. Those same people did not discern God's Spirit in the books that were left out of the Bible.

Muslims, on the other hand, believe that the Koran is the literal word of God. They believe that the Arcangel Gabrielt dictate word for word every word in the Koran, and that the words in the Koran are Allah's very words. They believe, moreover, that Gabriel spoke to Mohammed in Arabic, and that therefore the only true Koran is written in Arabic.

Were it to be discovered that the text of the Koran preceded the life of Mohammed, it would undermine a baci belief of Islam.

142 posted on 01/21/2008 7:30:14 AM PST by chs68
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