Posted on 01/13/2008 1:51:13 PM PST by wagglebee
"A third of my generation is dead because of politicians like Giuliani." -- Steven Pokorny, age 28, at Giuliani during meeting in Miami, Sunday, Jan. 13
MIAMI, Jan. 13 /Christian Newswire/ -- Rudy Giuliani was rattled by pro-life advocates and canceled his speech at his first bus-tour event Sunday in Miami. Activists have planned confrontations with Rudy for every stop of his Florida bus tour. Photos available online.
On Sunday, Jan. 13, at approximately 12:15 PM, pro-life activists were in the crowd at The Green Street Cafe (located at 3110 Commodor Plaza, Coconut Grove Florida, just outside Miami) waiting for Giuliani to begin his Florida Bus Tour.
When Rudy Giuliani arrived, Joseph Landry (age 26) was within 5 feet of the candidate, and began yelling: You are a baby killer! You are a baby killer! Florida is pro-life! Rudy wants public funding for abortion!" See news report. Law enforcement officials immediately escorted Mr. Landry from the area, while Mr. Landry continued his monologue.
Within Minutes, Steven Pokorny, age 28, stood to his feet and cried out, "A third of my generation is dead because of politicians like Giuliani! Giuliani wants to kill children and have you pay for it!" Law enforcement did not stop Mr. Pokorny.
At that point, Giuliani left the building, without addressing the crowd.
Mr. Pokorny was able to follow Mr. Giuliani for more than a minute, yelling out about Rudy's pro-choice, pro-homosexual agenda. Again, Mr. Pokorny was not interrupted by police.
Giuliani officials had no idea how many pro-lifers were in the crowd, and how many more times Giuliani would be confronted. This might explain why Mr. Giuliani did not make any remarks - and left the meeting without addressing supporters.
Pro-lifers have scheduled confrontations with Rudy on every stop of his Florida Bus tour.
Video footage of the confrontations with Rudy is available upon request.
Since you know all about me, please tell me what “my way” of fighting abortion is?
Having said that, it is also my right to decide whether or not I want to support them by purchasing their products.
Well, hallelujah!
That's ALL that we've been saying here. Yes, these dudes had the right to protest Rudy Giuliani or whoever else they wished to today. But the rest of us have the right to decide whether or not we think their protest was likely to have a positive or negative effect on the pro-life movement, and, therefore, to decide whether or not we want to support those type of protests.
It only took 300+ posts going to recitations of the Bill of Rights and what the Constitution "allows" for us to get to the further point of saying, hey, regardless that they have the right to do it, the rest of us have the right to, in effect, shout back at them. Hallelujah!
Your position is not clear to me, and I’m wondering if you would help me out on that.
I’ve been eagerly awaiting your answer to Balding Eagle’s question.
Could you give a direct answer on that, please? Thank you.
I repeat, the weird logic in your post # 424 is one of the MOST ASININE I've read in all my years here at FR.
You must be a Hucklebee supporter.
Leni
“Since you know all about me, please tell me what my way of fighting abortion is?”
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I know nothing about you and you have yet to state your “way of fighting abortion”
Well, to each his own!
Shall I run around now wailing that you are “wanting to FORCE me to shut up” or are trying to “DICTATE to me” how and when to protest your DixieChixistic reasoning because you are not “CONDONING” my viewpoint and, further, acting as though your manners ARE MORE EQUAL than mine?
Is that how it works?
Likewise, I am glad that you survived.
It is not about what "I" think. Where in the Bill of Rights does it say that an individual person's rights may be restricted depending upon what another person thinks or feels?
Barring criminal behaviors, people are allowed to speak their minds freely.
Yes, it is about what "you" think and about what "I" think and so on . . . because, contrary to your endless repetition, it is not about "restricting" a person's right to speech.
We have every right to support or criticize these protests--or say nothing. You may disagree with those who criticize them, or who (as I do) think they will likely backfire, but we have every right to speak our mind as well. And if that has the effect of people rethinking these protests, that is the way it goes. The Bill of Rights is still safe.
You’re quite sick. I will pray for you.
It works this way...
I am not going to vote for Gulianni ...that is a given...
And I am not going to vote for Romney who in some ways is a worse liberal than Gulianni...
I am going to vote for Duncan Hunter, the only conservative in the race...
my next choice of course is FRed...
After those two, I will not be throwing away my Christian and conservative principles to vote for Romney, or any of the lesser evils...
I agree with both of you. Perhaps some signs at several stops encouraging Rudy to become pro-life. That both encourages Rudy to beocme pro-life (probably never going to happen) AND reinforces the message that he isn't.
But shouting those kinds of comments at him everywhere in Florida he goes, make us look like a bunch of harassing, stalking nuts. It is very bad for the pro-life image and totally ineffective way of promoting the pro-life message and increasing the pro-life ranks.
We have to worry not only about the MSM but the fact that television programs and movies write this stuff into their scripts, making us look like irrational, crazy people. This does nothing to stop abortion and only helps to maintain them.
We can continue to raise money for ultrasound machines for crisis pregnancy centers.
We can adopt children (as I have done).
Oh, that’s two. I apologize.
Next time you want to say I’ve done nothing for the pro-life movement, . . . well, forget this, I’m going to go kiss my kids an extra good-night kiss.
Protesting against protesting against abortion sets back the cause for the saving of unborn babies' lives.
Unborn babies have no voice. Speak out for them OK?
Please explain how you have concluded that I “seek to silence” the right to free speech.
That’s a quite serious charge and you owe your evidence on that.
We really should be concerned about the manner in which we proceed and what’s effective and what isn’t, should we not?
And unfortunately no one is helped more than Giuliani by MSM images of him basically saying “screw you” to “wacky” (their view) members of the “religious right.”
Just the way it is.
“Youre quite sick. I will pray for you.”
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How sweet...actual I am healthy in mind and body
If you know how to pray please pray in tongues (the perfect prayer) and in the Name of Jesus the only begotten Son of God and the only judge of me...
You do know that I am one of those “trinity” beievers, dont you ???
Of course you do...
You are an amazing mind-reader! You should be on TeeVee!
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