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Clinton Camp Pre-Spinning Possible BAD NEWS IN IOWA: Third-Place Finish Would Not Be Disappointing
ABC News ^ | 01.02.08 | RICK KLEIN

Posted on 01/02/2008 1:06:50 PM PST by rface

As the presidential candidates engage in furious pre-caucus spin, one of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's most prominent Iowa supporters said Wednesday that she's already accomplished what she needs to in Iowa, and can declare success even if she finishes in third place.

Asked if the order of finish matters, Former governor Tom Vilsack, D-Iowa, deflected the question.

"She absolutely had to be competitive and she's accomplished that," he said. "Obviously everybody's interested in winning, and I think we're going to do well. It's tight. There's no question about that."

In May, Vilsack was quoted in the Washington Post, saying, "There's no question she's playing in Iowa and playing to win,' Tom Vilsack, who dropped out of the presidential race earlier this year and endorsed Clinton."

Vilsack's comments reflect the widespread uncertainty -- and the panicked dash to manage expectations.......

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To: BerryDingle
heh..3rd place is just purrrfect...


21 posted on 01/02/2008 1:34:25 PM PST by evad (.)
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To: Nonstatist

Thats a purty mouth...

Very BASS like!


22 posted on 01/02/2008 1:34:51 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: BerryDingle

I’ve seen her hips and butt and she wasn’t jogging any where after 9-11!!! Fir a young person she sure has had a lot of plastic done! Ya wonder about her inner beauty if any being raised by these two yutzs!


23 posted on 01/02/2008 1:35:14 PM PST by LYSandra
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To: Chameleon
She was like the one sweet girl in a room of arrogant young people.....

I am glad to hear this story

24 posted on 01/02/2008 1:38:07 PM PST by rface (kooky inside and out)
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To: rface
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25 posted on 01/02/2008 1:38:15 PM PST by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Chameleon

Well put. Chelsea can’t help her looks. And she can’t help who her parents are. I think she has gotten a lot of totally undeserved bashing here on FR.


26 posted on 01/02/2008 1:41:52 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Bring Back Paul Volcker!!)
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To: rface
Third place finish?

Besides Edwards and Obama, Biden, Richardson, Dodd, and Kucinich are still in the race. Wouldn't it be tasty if she came in seventh?

27 posted on 01/02/2008 1:44:09 PM PST by Octar
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To: rface

I predicted a Clinton 3rd place finish in Iowa a month ago.


28 posted on 01/02/2008 1:44:14 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Recon Dad
Thats a purty mouth...

Very BASS like!

I had something else in mind.

29 posted on 01/02/2008 1:55:40 PM PST by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I read a book a few years back about insiders (White House insiders) over the years remarking about the various offspring of the various presidents. Chelsea got good reviews, so to speak. She was described as basically a good kid (though her mother was disliked immensely). The only presidential kid who was despised by practically everyone was Amy Carter.


30 posted on 01/02/2008 1:58:53 PM PST by ought-six
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To: Cobra64


Upon learning she came in third place, Hillary
flew into a rage, wandering the streets, then took
a Hotel "dishwasher" hostage on a 75th floor patio
balcony; threatening to take him with her.
31 posted on 01/02/2008 1:58:58 PM PST by BerryDingle (With friends like the media, who needs enemas ?)
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To: Chameleon

Nice Chelsea story.


32 posted on 01/02/2008 1:59:47 PM PST by tioga (Happy New Year!)
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To: rface
"Drink will flow and blood will spill and if the boys dykes wanna fight you better let 'em."
33 posted on 01/02/2008 2:00:23 PM PST by relictele
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To: Octar

Off the topic but I’m housebound today and watching a lot of the Iowa coverage. Every clip I’ve of Hil has Huma within inches of her. If you didn’t know you would swear she was Hil’s Secret Service agent. She’s extremely homely!


34 posted on 01/02/2008 2:02:22 PM PST by surrey
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To: rface

Scrape the bottom vote for rodham


35 posted on 01/02/2008 2:03:59 PM PST by WhirlwindAttack (Muck the Fuslims. They owe me a son. And I got something for you rat's too.)
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To: rface
"She absolutely had to be competitive and she's accomplished that," he said

No Tom, finishing LAST among the viable, non-asterisk percentaged candidates IS NOT GOOD for the candidate who was originally to be crowned.

36 posted on 01/02/2008 2:07:55 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: WhirlwindAttack

I guess the difference between a caucus and an election is that the ballots or whatever are not secret.So, if you’ve been polite to Hillary and then turn on her, what happens to you??


37 posted on 01/02/2008 2:09:36 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: BerryDingle
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38 posted on 01/02/2008 2:12:02 PM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: rface

If you’re running for student council, third is fine. This is for the POTUS. Third is NOT FINE for Hillary. She was the only real candidate when this started...the keeper of the Dem Party and THE PURSE!!


39 posted on 01/02/2008 2:12:07 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Chameleon
That is a nice story, and I'm sure that many political children are like her.

I do not like to mock or hear people mock the look of any woman, be they Hillary, Helen Thomas or even Cindy Sheehan. Men can handle the comments about their looks a lot more than women can so comments about men don't really bother me. (Sounds sexist, but it's true.)

The disparaging remarks about Chelsea are the worst in my opinion. Growing up in the spotlight is hard enough for anyone, but when your physical looks are trashed by thousands of people who don't even know you, that's devastating.

I hope she stays away from politics, as I am sure I would not agree with her on any issue, but I hope that people will not put the sins of her parents on her for the rest of her life either.

40 posted on 01/02/2008 2:12:46 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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