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A question for Romney and Huckabee supporters
Vanity | 12/30/2007 | Hank Kimball

Posted on 12/30/2007 5:50:44 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball

I have a very simple question, and I'd really like your take on it. I don't mean this as antagonistic, but I'd really like to hear your answer.

Somewhere between 70 and 80 percent of the people here on Free Republic consistently express their clear preference in poll after poll for Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter over Huckabee or Romney.

My question is: Why?

Why do you think, despite Romneys many millions spent and the claims of both Romney and Huckabee to be genuine conservatives, that Freepers haven't bought it? It is quite clear that most here are firm in their belief that neither Romney or Huckabee is an acceptable conservative. At least at this point of the game.

Why do we think this - in your opinion?

And then, why are we wrong?

Hank


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To: JAKraig

More important—Fred Thompson says what we want a president to say and he does what we want a president to do.


441 posted on 12/31/2007 3:01:33 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Fred Thompson is the only candidate who appeals to instinct.)
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To: reasonisfaith
More important—Fred Thompson says what we want a president to say and he does what we want a president to do.

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I agree except for one thing, he does not work hard enough!

442 posted on 12/31/2007 3:16:29 PM PST by JAKraig (Joseph Kraig)
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To: Checkers

Yes I do, I’m not supporting a RINO like you appear to be doing. So answer the question.


443 posted on 12/31/2007 3:39:44 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: Checkers

That’s your prerogative, not to take me seriously, RINO.

But do you take FR seriously? Do you take JimRob seriously? Oh, I know the drill: crickets, deflection, anything but answer the question honestly. Such indicators are proof in themselves.


444 posted on 12/31/2007 3:43:08 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: dmw

FR is a CONSERVATIVE forum and we really aren’t interested in promoting RINO’s here. ... Keep cLAM.

***Well said.


445 posted on 12/31/2007 3:45:53 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: JAKraig

“I agree except for one thing, he does not work hard enough!”

Wanna hear about work? Fred has done a 15 day bus tour, not yet over, with approximately 60 stops so far.

Iowa campaign office reporting: “People are just pouring out to come see him.” “We had an entire restaurant in the little town of Tama packed full last night, and this has been happening across the state.” Staff member also says there’s been an increase in both the number of media and general public.

Sixty stops in fifteen days.


446 posted on 12/31/2007 6:04:13 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Fred Thompson is the only candidate who appeals to instinct.)
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To: JAKraig

Check out the FDTV tab on Fred’s website. http://www.fred08.com/FredCast/FredCastSummary.aspx

There is a list of videos you can choose from. Listen to what Fred Thompson has to say, then decide for yourself whether the media has been accurate in their portrayal of him.


447 posted on 12/31/2007 6:15:19 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Fred Thompson is the only candidate who appeals to instinct.)
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To: reasonisfaith

“There is a list of videos you can choose from. Listen to what Fred Thompson has to say, then decide for yourself whether the media has been accurate in their portrayal of him.”

Where has the media been unfair to the Fred?


448 posted on 12/31/2007 6:17:59 PM PST by Checkers (First they came for the Mormons, but I said nothing because I was not Mormon.)
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To: Checkers

The best thing you can do is decide for yourself my friend.

http://www.fred08.com/FredCast/FredCastSummary.aspx


449 posted on 12/31/2007 6:19:19 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Fred Thompson is the only candidate who appeals to instinct.)
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To: reasonisfaith

You can’t just tell me?


450 posted on 12/31/2007 6:22:51 PM PST by Checkers (First they came for the Mormons, but I said nothing because I was not Mormon.)
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To: Checkers

The media have been intimidated by Fred’s honesty, shamed by his sincerity and angered by his unwillingness to submit to them. Maybe what they hate the most about him is that he doesn’t have the lust for power that has corrupted Romney, Huckabee and Giuliani. So instead of taking his example and trying to do the right thing, they have continued their wrongful ways and lied about him.

http://www.fred08.com/FredCast/FredCastSummary.aspx


451 posted on 12/31/2007 6:31:28 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Fred Thompson is the only candidate who appeals to instinct.)
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To: lbgopguy
Those who know and have worked with Romney admire him and will do almost anything for him. He is a winner. He is as smart and accomplished as they come. He brings smart people together and leads them to positive solutions.

This is exactly what was said of Arnold Schwartzenegger out here in California, and I bought it hook, line, and sinker. (Not that we had a real chance to get a better man (McClintock) elected, since the CA recall process doesn't have a primary to winnow down the field....)

Now CA is again in a fiscal emergency, and Arnold's social policies have tilted hard left in the past year.

I can appreciate executive experience - that's like a good motor - and a solid campaign team - that's like a good transmission. But I have no faith in the steering, and that's keeping me from buying this Rambler.

452 posted on 12/31/2007 6:32:08 PM PST by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: reasonisfaith

Do you have any examples to back up your assertions?


453 posted on 12/31/2007 6:41:03 PM PST by Checkers (First they came for the Mormons, but I said nothing because I was not Mormon.)
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To: Checkers

Read all my posts, they’re right there.

Then check out Fred’s website:

http://www.fred08.com/Index.aspx


454 posted on 12/31/2007 6:47:49 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Fred Thompson is the only candidate who appeals to instinct.)
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To: reasonisfaith

I guess you don’t have any examples.


455 posted on 12/31/2007 6:49:30 PM PST by Checkers (First they came for the Mormons, but I said nothing because I was not Mormon.)
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To: Checkers

I don’t feel like repeating the idiocy of the media. Just in case you’re just trying to get me to repeat their lies.

You can go through my posts during the past two or three weeks, it’s all there and I provide many explanations and refutations.

(I wouldn’t expect a person with lazy tendencies to comply.)


456 posted on 12/31/2007 6:54:28 PM PST by reasonisfaith (Fred Thompson is the only candidate who appeals to instinct.)
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To: glmjr
I appreciate your candid but non-inflamatory post. I'm not even sure what a true conservative is anymore. A pure conservative or liberal cannot be elected in this country with only that following voting for him/her. It takes a coalition.

Unfortunately, GWB has already torn apart the conservative coalition in this country - evidence the 2006 election loss.

I happen to believe that Huckabee can put together a winning coalition based on conservative values. He can pull in votes from the Black community, independents, and some from the Edwards community, in addition to conservatives.

Whose your candidate and who will be in his coalition?

457 posted on 12/31/2007 8:01:23 PM PST by 11th_VA (HUCKABEE - HUNTER 2008 !!!)
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To: calvo
Nope I am not anti- Mitt or anti Mittbots either.

I am anti any politician who changes his mind on key issues right as he sets up a Presidential campaign. That is not nit-picking; that is seeing a fraud for what it is.

We are asked to believe that Massachusetts voted for a conservative governor? Majority of folks here on FR are a little too experienced and savvy to swallow that.

458 posted on 12/31/2007 10:10:32 PM PST by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: Common Tator
Tons of people have changed their minds.

I don't have any political ambitions, but if someone were to question my bona fides as a conservative by bringing up some of my writings from the early 1990's, I would be quite willing to denounce what I wrote earlier. Not say that I maybe went a bit too far, or that what I wrote didn't come out as I intended, but rather flat out acknowledge that what I wrote--and what I meant to write--was in fact dead wrong. I would further be more than happy to clarify why it was dead wrong.

Has Mitt Romney ever said why civilian disarmament is evil? If not, why believe that he really thinks it is?

459 posted on 01/01/2008 7:15:52 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Dr. Frank fan
...I doubt that either Romney or Huckabee would deny that they're not quite as conservative as Thompson and Hunter. So: that's why Freepers like them less, cuz they're less conservative.

I suspect that many FReepers who oppose Romney would support him, even though he doesn't even claim to be as conservative as Thompson, if they believed that he was at least as conservative as he claims to be. Perhaps that would make an interesting poll question:

If you believed that Mitt Romney was as conservative as he claims to be, would you support him
  1. Yes, and I believe he is in fact conservative enough to support
  2. Yes, but I don't think he is in reality conservative enough to support
  3. No, he doesn't even claim to be conservative enough to support
I wonder what the breakdown would be? I think I'd tend toward #2 myself.
460 posted on 01/01/2008 7:21:34 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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