Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 30 December 2007

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[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, December 30th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Former Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark., and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., and John McCain, R-Ariz.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sens. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Joe Biden, D-Del.; former GOP presidential candidate Steve Forbes; Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former Sens. Sam Nunn, D-Ga., Tim Hutchinson, R-Ark., and Jim Talent, R-Mo.; former Defense Secretary William Cohen.

[FreeReign]

I also know that my last day in the GOP headquarters in Sussex county was 12/22 so I would assume the guy was talking about the 12/19 deadline but again, again and again, I speculate.

If you talked to the head of the Sussex county Republican party on the 22nd, then yes I would assume that Fred is not on the ballot.

Also this list from the Delaware Commissioner of Elections "last updated: Wednesday, 19-Dec-2007 15:18:20 EST" seems to confirm it too.

But it's interesting to note that all of the screaming headlines that I could find were a day or two after the December 10th deadline. All the while, Fred was still eligible (see section 3183b of the Delaware State Code)and he could have been put on the list and ballot up until December 19th.

Add to that, the DBM several months back falsely claimed that Fred had missed some other state deadline, I don't recall the state.

[bray]

Did any of the library bookcases have crosses??

Pray for W and Our Troops

[The Pack Knight]

That's because Bloomberg used to be a Republican, I guess.

Truthfully, without knowing who the nominees are going to be, and what Bloomberg's platform is going to be, it's hard to say.

As far as his platform, he's certainly done his damnedest to ride the fence on Iraq and avoid taking any position on the war itself, beyond saying that our leaders need to "work together" to "bring the troops home." He's opposed a timetable, though, so he'd probably be a moderately pro-victory candidate. On health care, he sounds a great deal like Huckabee with his focus on government-promoted preventative measures. He's adamantly pro-choice and pro-gun control.

In fact, the more I think about it, the more I realize that he sounds a lot like a pro-choice, pro-gun control version of Mike Huckabee. Which would make him a Democrat, probably of the DLC, Bill Clinton wing of the party.

With Hillary as the Democrat nominee and anyone but Huckabee or Paul as the Republican, I think Bloomberg probably hurts Hillary more. I don't say this about many Republicans (or ex-Republicans), but he's essentially Hillary-lite without the ghoulish personality. People who support Clinton-era policies but personally dislike Hillary will find a lot to like in Bloomberg.

Also, the Republican base will probably not be split by Bloomberg like it was split by Perot. He's a social liberal and he lacks Perot's populist message. While he shares many of Huckabee's populist policies, he lacks Huckabee's populist touch.

I also think Bloomberg will make a more moderate Republican nominee, like Giuliani or McCain, look a lot more palatable to the conservative base by comparison. For example, while Giuliani and Bloomberg are both pro-choice, Giuliani has called for originalist judges, while Bloomberg has said "you're either with us or against us" in defending "women's rights."

Finally, I'm not convinced Bloomberg will really gain much of the vote unless one or both of the major party nominees is highly unpopular. He'll probably poll somewhere between Perot and Nader territory, in the high single digits. Since I don't think he has any clear appeal to Republicans outside traditional Democrat states anyway, I think the most he'll do for the Democrats is possibly keep someone like Giuliani from picking off any coastal blue states.

[bray]

Yeah Bloomie’s going to get Repubs. He was a Dim until 48 hrs before he was elected. Let him run!

Pray for W and Our Troops

[DietCoke]

Hillary can’t keep her stories straight. That’s nothing new, though.

[The Pack Knight]

I expect his campaign will be filled with empty anti-Washington and anti-partisan rhetoric. He can't say much more without alienating a lot of the moderates and independents he's hoping to make into his base.

Maybe I give the voters too much credit, but I doubt many people will buy it. Most voters may be ill-informed, but I think they're smarter than they're given credit for.

[MNJohnnie]

I heard some talking heads on CNBC say that Bloomie hurts us more,any takes on that?

Yeah, I would agree it could. Center-Right voters vote issues. Center-Left voters vote personality or against things. It depends on how they run their "Unity" campaign. Based on prove track record of the people involved, they should hurt the Dems but if they run a populist anti Washington DC campaign and they could do some serious damage.

[snugs]

So you do not get withdrawal symptoms dinner, cold meat, pickles, boiled potatoes for dad and crisps (potato chips) for me.

[FreeReign]

Those chips are Pringles, aren’t they. :)

[tarheelswamprat]

I heard some talking heads on CNBC say that Bloomie hurts us more,any takes on that? ... I've heard the same several times too. Who do they think they are kidding?...

Exactly.

It's good to see you're well enough to Freep, NN! Hope your recovery continues well! Lots of folks been prayin' & pullin' for ya... /grin

[MNJohnnie]

You are the pro, is this overstating the possible danger?

The assassination of Benazir Bhutto could end up being the most devastating act of terrorism since the assassination of the Arch Duke Ferdinand triggered World War 1 in 1914. A great deal rests on how the US Govt handles this matter. As they did in 1914, a serious of events could follow this assassination that might trigger a regional, possibly nuclear, war.

[AfterManyASummer]

I thought Huckabee did great on Meet the Press. I was embarrassed by what I’d read about his post-Bhutto assassination remarks, but he’s redeemed himself in my eyes.

His immigration plan is the most conservative of any of the leading candidates. To force all immigrants to register and leave. Does any other candidate endorse that plan?

[rodguy911]

Yeah that’s true but even if he steals rinos and indys it could hurt us. I hope he stays out.

[rodguy911]

As long as the saudis(playing both sides) support the wahabbi schools and the minds of the young islamos are polluted this problem will not go away soon.

[rodguy911]

Hope you are right.

[rodguy911]

I cant tell if stephy is still a card carrying member of the Clinton mafia, if he is just scared of her or hates her guts, anyone know what the truth is.?

[rodguy911]

You make really good sense.

The way its been put to me several times is that approx. a third of us vote conservative, a third liberal and the other third are up for grabs but logically speaking should come to our side.

So it all depends on how many he(bloomberg) could pluck from the middle that we would otherwise get. Hard to figure.

[rodguy911]

Looking good as always snugs.

[rodguy911]

Do we know who controls the nukes?

[SW6906]

That was back when they cost less than a dollar (guessing) a pack. Nowadays, at $5++ per pack, you would have stopped right quick and picked them back up!!!! ;o)

Good on you and the others on this thread for quitting. If only my wife would........