Skip to comments.Report: Hoover had plan for mass arrests (1950, up to 12,000 suspected of being disloyal)
Posted on 12/22/2007 12:35:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge
WASHINGTON - Former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover had a plan to suspend the rules against illegal detention and arrest up to 12,000 Americans he suspected of being disloyal, according to a newly declassified document.
Hoover sent his plan to the White House on July 7, 1950, less than two weeks after the Korean War began. But there is no evidence to suggest that President Truman or any subsequent president approved any part of Hoover's proposal to house suspect Americans in military and federal prisons.
Hoover had wanted Truman to declare the mass arrests necessary to "protect the country against treason, espionage and sabotage," The New York Times reported Saturday in a story posted on its Web site.
The plan called for the FBI to apprehend all potentially dangerous individuals whose names were on a list Hoover had been compiling for years.
"The index now contains approximately twelve thousand individuals, of which approximately ninety-seven percent are citizens of the United States," Hoover wrote in the now-declassified document. "In order to make effective these apprehensions, the proclamation suspends the writ of habeas corpus."
Habeas corpus is the right to seek relief from illegal detention, and is a bedrock legal principle.
All apprehended individuals eventually would have had the right to a hearing under Hoover's plan, but hearing boards comprised of one judge and two citizens would not have been bound by the rules of evidence.
The details of Hoover's plan was among a collection of Cold War-era documents related to intelligence issues from 1950-1955. The State Department declassified the documents on Friday.
Gay men can be dangerous.
—=sure would have played havoc with former New Dealers and Hollywood-—
Good for him. He should have pulled the trigger and done it. We could use a bit of that today. CNN wouldn’t have anyone left to “report”.
Look at this story for example:
about 3/4 of the way down they admit no one is there due to foreclosures but the headline leads you to believe that children are on the streets after the banks take their homes. This is Pravda stuff
Hoover would have a hay day today with all the demoratic traitors that we have. Hoover would probably hang Scary Reid (D-Al Qeada) and Nancy Peloser (D-Taliban) from the highest tree in the Country.
Wilson and Lincoln both rounded up tens of thousands. I think Jefferson was thinking about it too.
J. EDGAR HOOVER WAS NO CROSS-DRESSER; NEW YORK TIMES RETRACTS STORY THAT HE WAS
G. Gordon Liddy Show
Aired: July 22, 1998
New York Post, July 27,1998
J. EDGAR DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD
AN Off-Broadway show featuring a woman who portrays legendary FBI director J. Edgar Hoover as a cross-dresser perpetuates a hoax that refuses to die. (snip)
But the idea that America’s legendary lawman was a Broderick Crawford who wanted to be Cindy Crawford has been thoroughly discredited. It was first raised in a salacious 1993 biography, “The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover,” by Anthony Summers. Summers is a former BBC reporter who has built a career rehashing conspiracy theories involving Marilyn Monroe, President Kennedy, Hoover and other icons of the period.
Summers’ only source for the transvestite material was Susan Rosenstiel, ex-wife of industrialist Lewis Rosenstiel, who was one of Hoover’s small circle of friends. Susan Rosenstiel had served time for perjury and had been sued 38 times for various reasons by leading Manhattan stores, including Saks, Tiffany and Gucci. (snip)
Former FBI agents have pointed out that Hoover was himself under secret surveillance for his own protection and such behavior would have been reported. (snip)
Nevertheless, the Hoover Drag Queen Myth has become cant through repetition in certain intellectual circles where Hoover, and other law enforcement types, are reviled along with the military.
The myth sailed through the copy desk of the New York Times several weeks ago when it was rehashed in an art review by Michael Kimmelman. The newspaper retracted it five days later, but it will pop up again.
#2 - plans such as these were requested by either the AG or WH. The FBI had and has no powers consistent with that which this story suggests. At that time the number of special agents was less than 5000.
I always liked Kissinger’s “one cannot judge the events of the past based on the understanding of the present” or something similar.
“Gay men can be dangerous.”
Soviet files conclusively demonstrate that they started the false rumor of Hoover’s perversion.
That said, bowing down before evil and agreeing to use the word “gay” as a euphemism to describe those afflicted with same-sex attraction disorder is extremely unwise.
One reason it is unwise is that those afflicted with same-sex attraction disorder are indeed dangerous: seduction, molestation, and rape of the young, jealous violence, and decompensation into more severe forms of insanity are only a few of the risks.
“I wonder where he could have gotten this idea for blatantly illegal act?”
Possibly from Lincoln, who suspended habeus corpus during the War of Northern Aggression.
If the beast wins, Hoover’s plan will look like child’s play compared to what she will do.
I never thought much of Hoover until I read his book book “Masters of Deceipt.”
That’s a picture of an @ss of a man.
Paranoid Gay men can be dangerous.
How many of the people on the list were in congress at the time?
EXACTLY!Whether (or not)he was a cross-dresser(or not),he was a VERY effective LAWMAN!!
That’s a great question. Perhaps as effective, Hoover could have lobbied to just have the entire State department put behind bars... as well as the majority members of the Tydings sub-committee.
Expect Hollywood to come out with a movie on this shortly.
I would bet that Hillary’s main mentor “Saul Alinsky” was on that list.
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