Posted on 12/21/2007 7:32:45 PM PST by flattorney
Produced by Wild Eyes Prods. Executive producers, Carl H. Lindahl, David Keane; producers, Ryan Spyker, Aaron Cowden; director, Keane; writers, Bowden, Terrence Henry. Narrator: Bill Lloyd. Editor, Justin Inda; music, Michael Plowman. Running time: 120 Min.
Charlie Wilsons War (Wide Release Theater Movie)
Genres: Comedy, Drama, Adaptation, Biopic and War
Running Time: 1 hr. 37 min.
Release Date: December 21st, 2007
MPAA Rating: R for strong language, nudity/sexual content and some drug use.
Distributors: Universal Pictures Distribution
Production Co.: Icarus Productions, Participant Productions, Relativity Media, Playtone
Studios: Universal Pictures
Filming Locations: Morocco
Los Angeles, California USA
Produced in: United States
- - Based on the true story of how Charlie Wilson, an alcoholic womanizer and Texas congressman, persuaded the CIA to train and arm resistance fighters in Afghanistan to fend off the Soviet Union. With the help of rogue CIA agent, Gust Avrakotos, the two men supplied money, training and a team of military experts that turned the ill-equipped Afghan freedom-fighters into a force that brought the Red Army to a stalemate and set the stage for conflicts in the Middle East that still rage to this day.
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Book: Charlie Wilson's War:
The Extraordinary Story of the Largest Covert Operation in History
Hardcover: 416 pages
Publisher: Atlantic Monthly Press (April 2003)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0871138549
ISBN-13: 978-0871138545
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PaperBack 550 pages
Publisher: Grove/Atlantic, Inc.
Pub. Date: April 2004
ISBN-13: 9780802141248
Posted for FlAttorney by TAB
Thanks for the post. I lived in Tanglewood a 1/2 mile from the Galleria Marriot on Westheimer, but it was an InterContinental Hotel back then. Anyway, I have to get out of here. This is my last post at FR until mid-January, I hope, *lol*. Be well!
The movie does not have a sizable actual budget and was produced for peanuts. I/we know this for a fact. The public posted production budget is more Soros Shadow Party crap, i.e. significantly inflate the payments to certain people and companies involved in the film, so they can donate a good chunk of it back to SSP front organizations. It's the oldest Hollywierd trick in the book. - FlA
In fact he was assassinated by him on September 9, 2001.
It was Massoud's Northern Alliance that carried on a lonely war against the Taliban from 1993-October 2001 when the US boots hit the ground.
Pal I am not interested in the movie or it’s subject matter. I am strickly looking at it as to whether it makes money or not. Right now it’s not although down the road it might break even.
Lets not forget it was made by a very Liberal bunch with Aaron Sorkin writing the script. As a movie goer it just did not interest me.
So a $75 plus Million Dollar budget is not small? Also you figure in marketing, etc. and that film has to gross about $150 Million to break even. So you see now we are talking Big Bucks!
Thus, Adam Sorkin's tricky propoganda ploy in this movie. Better try to find some Dem heroes quick to revise history.
Charlie Wilson...good for him. He fought a Dem congress for appropriations to fight the Cold War.
But Wilson is a sad minority in the Dem party who fought tooth and nail AGAINST fighting the Cold War....sorry Sorkin...it's true. (And unfortunately Wilson was poor on all other fronts.)
Seems that more and more people are agreeing with me.
Media Bias: Hollywood would have us believe that Democrats defeated the evil empire in Afghanistan, and that President Reagan played only a minor role and even helped pave the way to 9/11. If you think Hollywood's idea of a Christmas movie being one about the Soviet defeat in Afghanistan is strange, even stranger is the plot line. "Charlie Wilson's War," which opened Friday, manages to reduce the president who won the Cold War to a background footnote. Charlie Wilson was a pro-abortion, Equal Rights Amendment-supporting congressman widely known as "the liberal from Lufkin." To his credit, he did play a role in facilitating support to the Afghan mujahadeen. But it is he who should be the historical footnote.
In his book, "Ronald Reagan: The Role of a Lifetime" Lou Cannon notes how Reagan "expressed revulsion of the brutal destruction of Afghan villages and such Soviet policies as the scattering of mines disguised as toys that killed and maimed Afghan children." He did not need much convincing to aid the Afghan resistance. Cannon credits Undersecretary of Defense Fred Ikle and CIA Director William Casey with allaying any concern that providing Stinger missiles to the mujahadeen might lead to the missiles' capture and copying by the Soviets. Also involved, says Cannon, was a bipartisan coalition "led by Texas Democrat Charlie Wilson in the House and New Hampshire Republican Gordon Humphrey in the Senate." So you have at least five players, including Reagan, involved four of them Republican conservatives. Ikle notes: "Senior people in the Reagan administration, the president, Bill Casey, (Defense Secretary Caspar) Weinberger and their aides deserve credit for the successful Afghan covert action program, not just Charlie Wilson." So guess which one Hollywood makes a movie about?
The movie is based on the book by former "60 Minutes" staffer George Crile [Deceased 5/15/06-MAR]. Crile's credits include the infamous 1982 CBS documentary alleging that Gen. William Westmoreland led a conspiracy to mislead America about the Vietnam War. The screenplay was written by Aaron Sorkin of "West Wing" fame. Wilson's chief ally in the film is CIA agent Gust Avrakotos who, like Wilson, is portrayed as a enthusiastic supporter of providing the Stingers. But Ikle says, the CIA bureaucracy initially fought against the idea and that Wilson was lukewarm on the matter. Ikle says both came around only after the rebels actually started bringing down the Soviet helicopter gunships. The movie also perpetuates the left-wing myth that the covert operation funded Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida and ultimately led to the 9/11 attacks. Reagan-era officials such as Ikle say Osama never got funding or weapons from the U.S. and that he didn't launch his terror war until after U.S. involvement and the Soviet withdrawal in 1989.
It was Ronald Reagan, not Charlie Wilson, who gave the order to provide the mujahadeen with the Stinger missiles that denied the Soviet air supremacy and turned the tide of battle after 1986. Yet in the movie, the likes of Dan Rather and Diane Sawyer (director Mike Nichol's wife) are more prominently mentioned. To be fair, the movie doesn't mention Jimmy Carter either. It was his naivete about Communist expansion that led the Soviets to invade Afghanistan in the first place. Had Reagan not beaten Carter in 1980 there would have been no Stingers and no victory in the Cold War. But don't expect a movie about Reagan's victory over communism or Carter's surrender to it.
http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&artnum=1&view=1&issue=20071224
Posted for FlAttorney by MAR
. . . . The question is how seriously should we take "Charlie Wilson's War." As political history, it's negligent: Charlie and Co. are such (covert) credit hogs that you'd never know that Reagan, or Gorbachev for that matter, had anything to do with the fall of Communism. It's also a bit troubling that all this Capitol Hill covertness is celebrated without the slightest irony. And when irony finally rears its ugly head and we are informed that the freedom fighters of then are the terrorists of today, it's too little, too late.
The filmmakers, just like everybody else he ever met, have been seduced by good time Charlie, and the seduction proves the film's undoing. His saga only retains its full-throated, black-comic force if viewed from the perspective of today's headlines. The way it's been done here, it's a success story without a punch line. Grade: B
Posted for FlAttorney by MAR
. . . And perhaps most disappointing is the films failure to give credit to the man who did the most to win the cold war, Ronald Reagan. This omission was clearly intentional (Tom Hanks, after all, is involved), and is corrected by Charlie Wilson himself, in the History Channel's historical perspective of the film. Nobody would have expected the movie to be about Reagan, but making a movie about winning the cold war that doesnt reference Reagan is a bit like making a movie about the Revolutionary War that doesnt reference George Washington.
Still, the film is well worth seeing, and viewers will be better for having seen it. While many heroes were involved in winning the cold war, the Afghanistan war is often viewed as the coup de grace for the Soviets. [snip]
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NewsMax Review: Charlie Wilson's War Credits Democrat With Cold War End
. . . History indicates that a prominent conservatives steadfast actions are what led to the Cold War end. It was the late great Ronald Reagan who was the key player in the engineering of U.S. victory following the prolonged tension-ridden period during which we were at odds with the then-Soviet Union. A current film once again illustrates that acknowledging Reagans triumphs doesnt sit all that well with liberal Hollywood. [snip]
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“How Joanne Herring won Charlie Wilson’s War”
Now that’s the movie I’d love to see. No need for ultra-liberal mega-stars, but with this great story it should do great in box-office.
It could be great if it touches briefly on post-Soviet era in Afghanistan along the lines in this (historically true and accurate) post :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1944041/posts?page=85#85
And you might enjoy this post :
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1944041/posts?page=34#34
Good job on securing the option!
Posted for FlAttorney by TAB
Michael G. Vickers, assistant secretary of defense for special operations/low-intensity conflict and interdependent capabilities, speaks in a November interview at the Pentagon.
With his owlish glasses and nasally voice, Mike Vickers isn't Hollywood's version of an international man of mystery. Yet this ex-Green Beret and former CIA agent engineered the clandestine arming of Afghan rebels who drove the Soviet Union out of their country nearly a quarter century ago in what was the largest covert action in the spy agency's history. The critical role Vickers played gets only modest attention in "Charlie Wilson's War," a movie about former Democratic Rep. Charlie Wilson of Texas, a Scotch guzzling playboy whose backroom scheming plunged the United States into the risky venture against the world's other superpower. The movie opens today. Vickers is played by Christopher Denham.
Unlike Wilson, who retired from Congress in 1996, Vickers remains deeply involved in secret programs. Now the Pentagon's top special operations official, Vickers advises Defense Secretary Robert Gates on counterterrorism missions around the world, manages the budget for U.S. commando forces and mediates the inevitable disputes among the generals over the best way to track down the enemy. In 1984, at age 31, Vickers was selected for the Afghan assignment despite his rookie status at the agency. His patron, a rogue CIA manager named Gust Avrakotos, recognized his talent for conducting guerrilla warfare. "Just lucky breaks," Vickers said in a recent interview.
Using his Green Beret training, Vickers transformed the Afghan resistance into a serious campaign that became the Soviet Union's Vietnam. As the war chest supplied by Wilson grew to hundreds of millions of dollars, Vickers delivered an increasingly more sophisticated arsenal to the Afghans: Russian AK-47 assault rifles with million of rounds of ammunition, rocket-propelled grenades and, eventually, U.S.-made Stinger missiles to down the deadly Soviet helicopters. The Soviets spent a decade battling the determined mujahedeen before pulling the battered Red Army from Afghanistan in 1989. Two years later, its economy in shambles, the Soviet Union collapsed and the Cold War was all but over. "Nobody thought this was possible at all - to drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan," Vickers said. "People thought we could bleed them some. It was a very improbable event, but sometimes the improbable happens."
Stealthy wars always have unintended consequences, however. Following the Soviet retreat, civil wars erupted, the Taliban took hold, and the country, flush with weapons, became a safe haven for Osama bin Laden's terrorist network. Following the Sept. 11 attacks, which were carried out by terrorists trained in Afghanistan, U.S. forces would invade the country they once helped liberate.
Vickers, 54, was born in Burbank, Calif., the son of a master carpenter who once built movie sets for 20th Century Fox. In 1973, he enlisted in the Army and passed the Special Forces qualification test. When he was not parachuting from airplanes in the middle of the night, he was training with the Navy SEALs to become a combat diver. As Vickers was earning his stripes, the U.S. military was preparing for the possibility of an atomic confrontation with the Soviets during the Cold War. Vickers volunteered to be on a secret "Green Light" team that - if needed - would drop into enemy territory with a small nuclear device. Once the bomb was planted and the timer set, they would head out to sea to be picked up by submarine. In 1983, after leading a classified counterterrorism unit operating in Honduras, Vickers left the Army for the CIA, a move he attributes to the "impulsiveness of youth." Vickers earned an award for valor during the invasion of Grenada and served on an agency team sent to hunt down the radical group behind the bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon.
Even years later, Vickers does not give too many details about these assignments. "I can't talk a lot about that," he said when asked about his tour in Honduras. The Afghan program was running smoothly enough in 1986 for Vickers to think about the future. Avrakotos and other close colleagues were soon to shift assignments and Vickers realized he probably would be moved to a new post that would be dull by comparison. "I was just turning 33, and I didn't want to slow down," he said. Vickers left the agency, earned a master's degree in business from the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School and began a brief and not-so-brilliant entrepreneurial career. By the early 1990s, Vickers was working as a military affairs consultant. Eventually he joined the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, a Washington think tank.
The Pentagon often came to him for advice when he was at the center. Two years ago, then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld tapped Vickers and two retired Army generals to examine how U.S. Special Operations Command in Tampa, Fla., could improve the way it was handling the fight against terrorism. In April, President Bush nominated Vickers to be the assistant secretary of defense for special operations and low-intensity conflict. Used to being in the shadows, the experience of being a character in the movie "Charlie Wilson's War" is an odd one for Vickers. With Wilson's colorful past and his CIA patron Avrakotos' fondness for four-letter words, Vickers had to assure his wife, Melana, the film's R-rating wasn't because of him. "She told me that if there were any sex scenes in the movie with a character named Mike Vickers, I'd be dead meat," he said.
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Mr. Michael G. Vickers, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations/Low-Intensity Conflict & Interdependent Capabilities (SO/LIC&IC) - SourceWatch Bio
CURRENT ASSIGNMENTS: Michael G. (Mike) Vickers was confirmed by the U.S. Senate as the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Special Operations/Low-Intensity Conflict & Interdependent Capabilities) on July 23, 2007. He is the senior civilian advisor to the Secretary and Deputy Secretary of Defense on the capabilities and operational employment of special operations forces, strategic forces, and conventional forces. He is also the senior civilian advisor on counterterrorism strategy, irregular warfare, and force transformation.
PAST EXPERIENCES: Prior to his appointment as ASD (SO/LIC&IC), Mr. Vickers served as Senior Vice President, Strategic Studies, at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments (CSBA). In this capacity, Mr. Vickers provided advice on Iraq strategy to President Bush and his war cabinet. He also was a senior advisor to the 2006 Quadrennial Defense Review, and Executive Director of the QDR Red Team, which provided an assessment of the QDR for the Deputy Secretary and Vice Chairman. In late 2005, Mr. Vickers conducted an independent assessment of special operations forces (The Downing Report) for the Secretary of Defense. He is the author of numerous publications, among which is The Revolution in War (2004).
From 1973 to 1986, Mr. Vickers served as an Army Special Forces Non-Commissioned Officer, Special Forces Officer, and CIA Operations Officer. During this period, Mr. Vickers had operational and combat experience in Central America and the Caribbean, the Middle East, and Central and South Asia. His operational experience spans covert action and espionage, unconventional warfare, counterterrorism (including hostage rescue operations), counterinsurgency, and foreign internal defense.
During the mid-1980s, Mr. Vickers was the principal strategist for the largest covert action program in the CIAs history: the paramilitary operation that drove the Soviet army out of Afghanistan. Mr. Vickers oversaw a major change in U.S. strategy, provided strategic and operational direction to an insurgent force of more than 300 unit commanders, 150,000 full-time fighters, and 500,000 part-time fighters, coordinated the efforts of more than ten foreign governments, and controlled an annual budget in excess of $2 billion in current dollars.
Mr. Vickers received his B.A., with honors, from the University of Alabama. He also holds an MBA from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania. He is married to Melana Zyla Vickers, and has five daughters.
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