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On domestic policy, I have no problem with the author. However, he sounds out to lunch on foreign policy, complaining about Iraq twice and ignoring Afghanistan and terrorism.
1 posted on 12/20/2007 12:57:22 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I see today will not be the day John Derbyshire decided to start saying something intelligent.


2 posted on 12/20/2007 1:00:57 PM PST by counterpunch (Get Up And Go Fred Go Already!)
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Yes, there are several very good reasons to support Paul. He’s quite right on a lot of issues.

However, there are several better reasons not to support him, and, alas, it’s a package deal.


3 posted on 12/20/2007 1:02:25 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: neverdem

You can take the eccentric out of England and you can probably make him drink but the horse may not lead you to water.


4 posted on 12/20/2007 1:04:58 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: neverdem
This is hardly surprising. Ever since he formally renounced Christianity in an earlier column, it was clear that Derbyshire had utterly lost the plot.

Not that there wasn't substantial evidence of that earlier.

He had written columns disparaging Bible-believers before that one.

5 posted on 12/20/2007 1:06:29 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
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To: neverdem

I don’t know, he’s making a lot of sense... Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul.....

ARRGGH ! Wow. Sorry, I woke up.

How we got where we are is one thing, reducing it is fine, but it’s certainly another problem with which we all must deal.

A President, regardless of which one, will not be able to simply wave his hand and fire thousands of people (Ok, Reagan did it with the ATC strike, but he had a good reason) — but do you think Ron Paul will FIRE the IRS? No.

Will he FIRE the Social Security Administration? No.

Do you think he will fire the idiots and miscreants that DO work in various agencies throughout the country whose very existence is the ban of all free people (for clarity, I am talking about some of these moronic middle managers who find themselves in a position of trust, and having money and power and who flaunt it, spend it, use it, and cheat tax payers out of more, and can’t be fired ANYWAY!) NO!

Is Ron Paul going to push the NASA space program to go to Mars? NO.

Is Ron Paul actually going to close the border? HELL NO, not if he is willing to “talk” to our enemies.


6 posted on 12/20/2007 1:06:30 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: neverdem
Ron Paul believes that America only needs a submarine to defend her.

Sure, the government would shrink under a Ron Paul administration (thankfully will never happen).

The defense community in the United States after Ron Paul would get finished with it would resemble the Finish Army.

There would not be much left to the Republic by that time anyway.

7 posted on 12/20/2007 1:07:15 PM PST by lormand (Ron Paul 08' - The Idiot's Idiot)
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To: neverdem
Liberty! Liberty! Not from Ron Paul!

8 posted on 12/20/2007 1:08:00 PM PST by ari-freedom (Mitt Romney. He may be a liberal but he's the prettiest.)
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To: neverdem
Derbyshire is right. Most of the candidates have no interest in limited government, and Washington is now a bloated and corrupt imperial city, a standing affront to the principles of Reaganism.

We will know we have had successful conservative governance when the DC suburbs start experiening a deep and prolonged population decline.

14 posted on 12/20/2007 1:19:51 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: neverdem

Junk like this is why I let my subscription run out. Senile uncle bill must love this guy when he’s lucid.


15 posted on 12/20/2007 1:20:23 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: neverdem
Derbyshire is a militant atheist, who having understanding of the power of religion, dismisses Islamism. No wonder he like Paul.

Derb is a tool on everything but math and immigration.
16 posted on 12/20/2007 1:50:48 PM PST by rmlew (Paul/McKinney in 2008. Dhimmitude forever)
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To: neverdem

If we are all dead due to our enemies.; that’s not quite the liberty I had envisioned.


21 posted on 12/20/2007 2:46:55 PM PST by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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John Derbyshire, leading writer at National Review, endorses Ron Paul for president! He can't resist liberty and small-government.
22 posted on 12/20/2007 2:47:08 PM PST by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: neverdem
...of widening cracks in our sense of nationhood ("Press one for English...")...

Why would a single business drop "Press one for English..." if Paul was president?

I've noticed something paradoxical about victims of Paul Derangement Syndrome. They somehow believe that Paul is the answer to every issue plaguing us--which makes them more like liberals than conservatives in believing that government will solve our problems.

28 posted on 12/20/2007 7:04:44 PM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: neverdem

I’m a fan of Derb, but I’ll never support Paul.


53 posted on 12/21/2007 8:47:05 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: neverdem

Derbyshire has been pretty good on immigration. He should take a look at Paul’s record. Paul voted for amnesty.

Ron Paul’s Immigration Record http://NumberUSA
Published: Oct 29, 2007

Paul’s Immigration Voting Record & Report Card on the NumbersUSA website:

(1) Paul consistently voted every year since 1999 against putting the military on the border:

2006: H. Amdt. 206 to H.R. 1815 2004: Goode Amendment to H.R. 4200 2003: Goode Amendment to H.R. 1588 2002: H. Amdt. 479 to H.R. 4546 2001: Traficant amendment to HR 2586 2000: Traficant amendment to H.R.4205 1999: Trafficant Amendment to H.R. 1401.

(2) Paul voted in 1997, 2001( H.R. 1885) and 2002 (H RES 365) to grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens.

(3) Paul voted NO on extending the voluntary Basic Pilot Workplace Verification Program (H.R. 2359),

(4) Paul voted NO on the border fence in 2005 (Hunter Amendment to HR 4437 - “Enforcement Only” Bill).

(5) Paul voted YES to increase H2-B (HR 763 in 2005) and H-1B visas (HR 3736 in 1998). In 1998, he voted to allow US firms to lay off Americans to replace them with foreigners.

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=204917&Disp=101#C101


(2) Paul voted in 1997, 2001( H.R. 1885) and 2002 (H RES 365) to grant, extend or continue Section 245-i amnesties for illegal aliens.

Everyone needs a reminder of some of Pauls BAD immigration votes.

Especially Item #2. This was an amnesty and allowed for chain migration, more visas, blah,blah, and one reason it has gotten as bad as it has. It was pushed by the White House.

H.R.3525 Title: To enhance the border security of the United States, and for other purposes. (introduced 12/19/2001) Related Bills: H.RES.365, H.R.1885, H.R.3205, S.CON.RES.106, S.1618, S.1749 Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 107-173 [GPO: Text, PDF] Note: On 3/12/2002, H.Res. 365 was agreed to by the House. H.Res. 365 incorporated the text of H.R. 3525, the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act, in H.R. 1885, previously the Section 245(i) Extension Act dealing with certain immigration petition filing deadlines. Subsequent action on border security returned to H.R. 3525.

http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HR03525:

The White House [snip]

H.R. 1885 - Section 245(i) Extension Act The Administration strongly supports House passage of H.R.1885 as expected to be considered on the House floor. H.R. 1885 would extend the window created under section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act during which qualified immigrants may obtain legal residence in the United States without being forced to first leave the country and their families for as long as several years. This legislation reflects the Administration’s philosophy that government policies should recognize the importance of families and help to strengthen them.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/legislative/sap/107-2/HR1885-h.html

also:

Rep. Paul is a cosponsor of H.R. 793, the Save Our Small and Seasonal Business Act of 2005, to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to limit the timing of issuance of H-2B visas during a fiscal year. Specifically, H.R. 793 would split the H-2B visa cap so no more than 33,000 visas are made available for the first six months the fiscal year, and another 33,000 visas would be available in the second half of the year. However, H.R. 793 exempts from the annual cap aliens granted an H-2B visa within three years prior to approval of an H-2B petition, thus potentially TRIPLING the number of H-2B workers in the United States at any one time. Although timing the issuance of H-2B visas is a common-sense approach that would help prevent the situation that occurred in FY 2004 and FY 2005 when the 66,000 annual cap on H-2B (low-skill) nonimmigrant visas was hit within the first quarter of the year, H.R. 793 would ultimately harm American workers by creating exemptions which potentially could triple the number of H-2B workers in the U.S. at any given time. Nearly doubled H-1B foreign high-tech workers in 1998

and

Voted on House floor against Hunter amendment to increase security with border fence in 2005 Rep. Paul voted against the Hunter Amendment to H.R. 4437, the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005. The Hunter Amendment would shore up security by building fences and other physical infrastructure to keep out illegal aliens. Specifically, it mandates the construction of specific security fencing, including lights and cameras, along the Southwest border for the purposes of gaining operational control of the border. As well, it includes a requirement for the Secretary of Homeland Security to conduct a study on the use of physical barriers along the Northern border. The Hunter Amendment passed by a vote of 260-159


56 posted on 12/21/2007 9:53:10 AM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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