Ron Paul: 'When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'. (Drudge's Title)

(YouTube Via Drudge) ^

[mnehring]

YouTube video via Drudge- Ron Paul quote this morning on Fox and Friends- "When fascism comes it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. "

[AuntB]

“As an early Goldwater supporter, later Reagan supporter, I would emphatically deny your suggestion. Dr. Paul is the candidate of those of us who have throughout our adult lives fought for the values of the Founding Fathers, for a political society based upon individual responsibility and accountability; for public office holders who respect the limitations on their power and prerogatives; for sound money and secure borders.”

I have always appreciated your views, William. Paul has been right about many things, but please take a look at his inconsistency. He lines up with the worst of the worst socialists in congress to co sponsor their bills. Too many of his own are, questionable.

In one, if he had gotten his way, he wouldn’t even be allowed to be in the debates. I simply can’t understand or appreciate his thinking on many bills he’s signed on to.

. H.CON.RES.263 : Expressing the sense of Congress that any Presidential candidate should be permitted to participate in debates among candidates if at least 5 percent of respondents in national public opinion polls of all eligible voters support the candidate’s election for President or if a majority of respondents in such polls support the candidate’s participation in such debates. Sponsor: Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] (introduced 11/6/2001) Cosponsors (2)

See some of Paul’s CO sponsored legislation here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/1940847/posts?page=28#28

[italianquaker]

When he loses the primary we can start talking about the election but now paul does serve as good amusement fodder

[italianquaker]

I give his supporters credit, they are determined and dedicated

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

When the truth ain’t on your side, honesty isn’t much of an option.

[George W. Bush]

Part of being a "kook site" is posting threads from other sites you label "kook sites". Isn't FR supposed to be above that? I always thought that was the policy and it served us well. You should ask to have your post pulled. We don't want to be a forum that sinks to cross-forum postings, do we? Haven't you been at enough of these forums that specialized in that and seen what always happens?

Cross-forum posting=bad policy. It hurts the forum.

[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

How sad that I have to preface this critique by mentioning I’m a Hunter supporter - otherwise I’ll be called a Paulistinian - but this is really over the top.

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote against our troops.

(Tell it to the US troops in prison for doing their job)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote against decency.

(Meaningless statement)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for surrender.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for defeat.

(I don’t agree with Paul’s foreign policy, but also don’t agree with your characterization)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for al Qaeda.

(Way over the top...)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Don Black, David Duke, and Storm Front.

(No, it’s a vote for Paul. Last time I checked, Duke isn’t running. I’ve also never heard Paul support Duke et al. Quotes please. From Paul - not the guys you mentioned)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for racism.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for bigotry.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for hate.

(Over the top)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for antisemitism.

(I’m a Jew and I disagree. I’m also not pulling the lever for Paul, but this is just silly.)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Iranian nukes.

(Bush said he doesn’t oppose the Russians sending uranium to Iran - in the last day.)

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for the destruction of Israel.

(As opposed to the Bush “Roadmap,” Annapolis conference, Rice statements, etc? I think they might do better with LESS US intervention in their politics from us.)

[West Coast Conservative]

Ron Paul is a RINO moonbat and so are his deluded supporters. You expect this kind of BS from Kos and the DUmp - not from a Republican running for President.

[Andrew Byler]

Patriotism and Christianity will be forces opposing this, not helping it.

I think you are missing the point. He's saying that in order to sell fascism to people, it will be sold shrouded in Patriotism and Christianity, as if it is compatible with them instead of antithetical.

[George W. Bush]

I give his supporters credit, they are determined and dedicated

The other candidates are broke. Ron Paul isn't. And he has fewer than 5% donors who are maxxed out. Then you have his 80,000 Meetup members.

BTW, most of the RP supporters seem to love this remark, especially how it made the FNC crew run scared and go to commercial.

I can't tell if the remark has hurt his fundraising for today. He's only raised $53,000 more since midnight.

[Ohioan]

A sense of Congress resolution would not be binding on anyone. But what is your objection to the idea of letting all who appear to have significant following participate in debates?

In any event, such a resolution hardly approaches in importance many of the expensive estensions of the scope of the Federal Government, which Ron Paul has stood against; extensions which have led to enormous deficits that are destroying the value of our money, even as the programs themselves undermine the moral fiber of our people.

While, I have in replies above, disparaged Governor Huckabee, I would never disparage your candidate, Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo, who are both honorable men. I would make that clear, but my support for Ron Paul will continue.

[Wallace T.]

The context of Ron Paul's citation of the quotation attributed to Sinclair Lewis originally related to the latter's experience in the 1920s, when the Ku Klux Klan, the closest thing America has ever had to a European style fascist movement, very much wrapped themselves in the Christian cross and the United States flag. The 1920s KKK was as much, if not more, anti-Catholic and anti-Semitic, as it was anti-black. The organization had great strength in places like Maine, Indiana, Colorado, and Oregon, where blacks were few, and also in parts of the Northeast and Upper Midwest where there were also large numbers of white Catholics, mostly recent immigrants or their offspring. The Klan failed, unlike the Italian fascists or the German Nazis, because it lacked a charismatic, dynamic Duce or Fuhrer and was plagued with a corrupt, disorganized, and venal leadership at the national level and in many states. Additionally, the Klan's opponents, Catholics, Jews, blacks, and liberals, were way too numerous in America to have permitted a relatively easy takeover had the organization been led by a Mussolini or a Hitler.

The dynamics of American Protestantism have changed drastically since the 1920s, Sinclair Lewis' heyday. The modernist-fundamentalist split had not yet been fully completed at the time. At present, liberal Protestantism and its conservative opposition are wholly divorced. Sociologists treat mainline Protestants and evangelicals to be as distinct from each other as both are from Catholics. Evangelicals are friendlier at least towards conservative Catholics than at any time since the Reformation. The rise of dispensational theology in evangelical circles and the impact of the Holocaust have routed past tendencies toward anti-Semitism, although many Jews still distrust evangelicals. White segregationist sentiments have likewise disappeared. By the 1980s, conservative Baptist preachers like Jerry Falwell and W.A. Criswell apologized for the pro-segregation statements they had made in the 1950s.

While Mike Huckabee is a nanny state advocate and may be playing the Christian card unfairly against Mitt Romney, it is equally unfair for Ron Paul to imply that Huckabee is a fascist by quoting a long-dead author out of historical context.

[fortheDeclaration]

Well, well, well. Patriotism and Christianity are bad now.

No, but counterfeit Patriotism and Christianity are.

We have seen Carter and Clinton sell themselves as 'Christians'.

And the Neocons (the elites) are selling the WOT as fighting for America, when in fact they are using America's military to advance globalism.

[VirginiaConstitutionalist]

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote against our troops.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for surrender.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for defeat.
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for al Qaeda

Which is why he (himself an Air Force vet) is getting more contributions from our troops than any other candidate.

But it's fun to watch the anti-Ron Paul nuts flop to the floor, kick their feet, cry and accuse him of being an angry spammer and conspiracy nut...all while

* copying and pasting the same things over and over again, in caps with exclamation points, and
* clinging to the nutty conspiracy that all the money is coming from George Soros or liberals, while never once offering a rational explanation as to how Soros is mailing hundreds of thousands of checks worth millions to hundreds of thousands of people across the country without anyone noticing, and ignoring the fact Paul's money is mostly coming from red states like Texas, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, etc., etc.

[Allegra]

Its kinda funny that thread just went ‘dead’ over there.

I noticed that. They were getting all excited that we were laughing at their inanity and then it just got real quiet.

I think they have to dwell on stuff for a bit before they post it. Even bile is an art form. LOL

[Injun_Ear_Danny]

It had to happen sometime. How about you address the issues instead of discrediting me because it’s (one of) my first post(s). This tone sounds very similar to people discrediting Ron Paul “because there’s no way he’s going to get the nomination”. What a self-fulfilling prophesy that is. And as it’s been said, Paul is okay with losing, but he wants people to wake up and realize that dire changes need to be made.

[Injun_Ear_Danny]

Unfortunately, Greg, your reply seems like a long run-on sentence, and I’m having a hard time figuring out what your specific point is.

I guess a reason why I am different from a lot of people is that I grew up a christian (cradle catholic, in fact), but the years of hypocrisy (not of membership, but the difference between what is taught and what occurs in nature) drove me to believe that religion itself is merely a human construct.

Please elaborate on your point.

[murphE]

I think RP was on target here with his Sinclair Lewis reference. People are acting like we're electing a pope, not selecting a GOP nominee.

After reading most of the other comments on this thread I think that I must be Alice and that I have gone through the looking glass.

Ron Paul was on CNN, MSNBC, and Fox and Friends today. Fox and Friends (of Rudi) asked the stupidest questions and did the least professional interview.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

Which is why he (himself an Air Force vet) is getting more contributions from our troops than any other candidate.

Lie. What he gets is more contributions from people who list their employers as a branch of the armed services. Those employers are not checked, there's no verification whatsoever.

It's no different than the moonbats who call Rush or Bill Bennett claiming to be veterans. This is transparent left-wing playbook stuff. And L Ron is the official moonbat Republican party troll, so... add it up. Or don't. It doesn't much matter.

[Greg F]

Find the periods. They indicate the ends of sentences.

[darkwing104]

Which is why he (himself an Air Force vet) is getting more contributions from our troops than any other candidate.

I doubt it. Let's be honest here those numbers are self reported with no independent verification. I am not calling you a liar but I have to say BS on this.