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Global ocean temperatures "plunge"
from data gathered by the National Climatic Data Center ^ | 12/17/07 | Dangus

Posted on 12/17/2007 11:43:27 AM PST by dangus

In 2000, when scientists declared that the Earth's temperature was rising, much anxiety ensued, even though the increase was only half of a degree over sixty years. In just the past year, however, the Earth's temperature has reversed, yielding back one-half of that increase.

The past month's (November's) global oceanic data from the National Climatic Data Center has now been released, and the Earth's oceans surface is .2548 degrees warmer than the 1880-2007 average. That's down from .5250 last year and .5597 roughly a decade ago.

There have been drops of roughly a couple tenths of a degree previously, in spite of the general warming trend. But such drops, blamed on "La Ninas," have occured immediately following temperature spikes. What makes this current La Nina unusual is that the current temperature drop follows an imperceptibly small temperature spike.

As a result, the cold snap is pulling down even the six-year running average of temperatures.

This does not mean that the warming trend has necessarily reversed itself; there have, indeed been declines in running averages even longer than that during this decline. In fact, a cooling trend lasted from the 1940s through the 1970s.

However, unable to justify drastic temperatures with fears of the temperature rising a single degree or less next century, the global-warming doomsday-preachers have been asserting that the surge in global warming in the late 1990s indicated an acceleration of global warming.

The notion of such an acceleration seems difficult to reconcile with the new data: The world's oceans were warmer during warm spells of the 1940s.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; globalwarmingisbs
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It'll chase the Cloverfield beast from the depths and it'll rampage the city.
61 posted on 12/17/2007 12:48:05 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: expatpat
it was not what we do individually, it’s what we do politically

At least he admits GW is about the advancement of the global socialist agenda...

62 posted on 12/17/2007 12:48:38 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: NeoCaveman
"The Cooling World" - by Peter Gwynne
April 28, 1975 Newsweek

There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now.

The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.
The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars' worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.
 

To scientists, these seemingly disparate incidents represent the advance signs of fundamental changes in the world's weather. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. If the climatic change is as profound as some of the pessimists fear, the resulting famines could be catastrophic. “A major climatic change would force economic and social adjustments on a worldwide scale,” warns a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences, “because the global patterns of food production and population that have evolved are implicitly dependent on the climate of the present century.”

A survey completed last year by Dr. Murray Mitchell of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reveals a drop of half a degree in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968. According to George Kukla of Columbia University, satellite photos indicated a sudden, large increase in Northern Hemisphere snow cover in the winter of 1971-72. And a study released last month by two NOAA scientists notes that the amount of sunshine reaching the ground in the continental U.S. diminished by 1.3% between 1964 and 1972.
To the layman, the relatively small changes in temperature and sunshine can be highly misleading. Reid Bryson of the University of Wisconsin points out that the Earth’s average temperature during the great Ice Ages was only about seven degrees lower than during its warmest eras – and that the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age average.

Others regard the cooling as a reversion to the “little ice age” conditions that brought bitter winters to much of Europe and northern America between 1600 and 1900 – years when the Thames used to freeze so solidly that Londoners roasted oxen on the ice and when iceboats sailed the Hudson River almost as far south as New York City.

Just what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery. “Our knowledge of the mechanisms of climatic change is at least as fragmentary as our data,” concedes the National Academy of Sciences report. “Not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions.”

Meteorologists think that they can forecast the short-term results of the return to the norm of the last century. They begin by noting the slight drop in overall temperature that produces large numbers of pressure centers in the upper atmosphere. These break up the smooth flow of westerly winds over temperate areas. The stagnant air produced in this way causes an increase in extremes of local weather such as droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons and even local temperature increases – all of which have a direct impact on food supplies. “The world’s food-producing system,” warns Dr. James D. McQuigg of NOAA’s Center for Climatic and Environmental Assessment, “is much more sensitive to the weather variable than it was even five years ago.” Furthermore, the growth of world population and creation of new national boundaries make it impossible for starving peoples to migrate from their devastated fields, as they did during past famines.

Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.

63 posted on 12/17/2007 12:49:14 PM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: NeoCaveman

And it’s YOUR fault. You and your SUV!

Oh, and Bush. And Cheney. And Halliburton.


64 posted on 12/17/2007 12:49:46 PM PST by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: dangus
Not by Fire but by Ice
THE NEXT ICE AGE - NOW!

65 posted on 12/17/2007 12:50:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Onelifetogive

Good catch!


66 posted on 12/17/2007 12:50:47 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Eternal_Bear
According to this book (page 427) we are still "very much in an ice age" and permanent ice at both poles may be "unique in earth's history."

 

67 posted on 12/17/2007 12:51:44 PM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: dblshot
No problem, he’ll just switch to selling carbon debits.

Someone already beat him to it and has cornered the market.

CarbonCreditKillers.com

68 posted on 12/17/2007 12:52:29 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: dangus

This is very odd. There’s a buoy registering a 15 degree drop in ocean temperature.

Oh, yeah, that’s right. That buoy malfunctioned the other day.

I’ll see if there are ships near Georges Bank to get it.

This buoy isn’t in Georges Bank. It’s just off Greenland.

What?

What are the odds of two buoys failing?

Remote.

Make that three.


69 posted on 12/17/2007 12:52:50 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: pabianice

How does 0.6 of a ton of fuel turn into 40 tons of waste?


70 posted on 12/17/2007 12:53:20 PM PST by BreezyDog
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To: dangus

This will depress hurricane formation and consequently a drought in the south and southeast will develop.


71 posted on 12/17/2007 12:53:57 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: BreezyDog

ping


72 posted on 12/17/2007 12:54:35 PM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate tag lines but I don't know how...)
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To: itsamelman

Wheat is up to 10.00 a bushel I heard....


73 posted on 12/17/2007 12:55:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: kidd
Coggie -Care to comment?

He's a big fan of realClimate. realclimate is a Soros backed group consisting of hard core leftist mathematicians and corrupt scientists. It's mission is NOT science, but to destroy anyone or any report that gives any doubt to AGW. realclimate is evil because they are one of the main groups moving "real" science into the political sphere. That is extremely dangerous because it can destroy true science. realclimate is a strong admirer of Gore and

It is absolutely disgusting how real science is being perverted by these charlatans and Stalinist.

Anyone who believes the lies of reaclimate are fools. For some reason they can't see the absolute evil of the AGW crowd. Maybe they are a miserable lot and they want to see our way of life destroyed.

74 posted on 12/17/2007 12:58:39 PM PST by sand88
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To: dangus

At least we’re hearing mostly truth here. Since, they got caught fudging a pure political move...guess they’ve been told to stop that kinda bs. Hope they continue to do this.


75 posted on 12/17/2007 12:58:51 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: dangus

I’m curious, at what depth do they take these readings and do thermaclines factor into these equations? Also, do oceans have “turnovers” like lakes do when the surface temperatures drop below the temperature of the lake?


76 posted on 12/17/2007 1:00:28 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Visions of sugarplums dancing in your head are probably caused by bad drugs.....)
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To: RC51

There’s 1200 lbs of carbon. Add 3200 lbs of oxygen, and you get 4400 lbs of CO2.


77 posted on 12/17/2007 1:01:39 PM PST by expatpat
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To: dangus

I saw this in that Al Gore movie. We are all fixin to freeze.


78 posted on 12/17/2007 1:02:03 PM PST by citizen ("Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." Benjamin Franklin)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yes, but the “centuries” and “exponential” cannot be correct. When did the concept of exponents in math become applied? That is what I am questioning. I totally agree with you about the alarmist thought in the ‘60s. “My Weekly Reader” certainly set the stage for that.


79 posted on 12/17/2007 1:03:05 PM PST by Jemian
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To: Hot Tabasco

They are upper ocean readings, taken within 10’ of the surface, probably. The deeper ocean is stratified and does not change temperature very much, so it’s not a sensitive measure of change.


80 posted on 12/17/2007 1:04:56 PM PST by expatpat
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