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The facts in the article are from various news sources on the web, and can be checked out pretty easily. Much of the MSM is referring to Jeanne as a "security guard", inferring that she was licensed by the state.

It is interesting to note that if she had been licensed by the state, she would have been prevented from using the Beretta that she used to stop the crime.

1 posted on 12/16/2007 10:43:49 AM PST by marktwain
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BTW, the headline is klutzy in any case. Da Post (NY Post) could have gotten the facts into about 5 words. Well, maybe 6.


50 posted on 12/16/2007 11:42:06 AM PST by livius
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The most popular security revolver is a Ruger Security Six, I think. A good, reliable gun, which comes chambered for .357. If she had to carry a wheelgun, it is likely she would have had one of these.


56 posted on 12/16/2007 11:53:00 AM PST by gridlock (Of all the pleasures of watching Hillary fail, the sweetest is watching Bill duck the blame...)
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If she were in the alice-in-wonderland world of the U.S. Military she would probably be facing Court Martial.


58 posted on 12/16/2007 11:58:36 AM PST by gitmogrunt (8 years of Clinton and 8 years of Bush Destroyed America)
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You’re right. There is confusion about whether she was in official capacity as a security guard at the time. Meanwhile, this is a real wake up call to other religious institutions around the country to get people with guns in the buildings.


61 posted on 12/16/2007 12:06:13 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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The facts in the article are from various news sources on the web, and can be checked out pretty easily. Much of the MSM is referring to Jeanne as a "security guard", inferring that she was licensed by the state.

The word is "implying". It's the one who is reading or hearing something that does the inferring. Furthermore, you can infer something without its ever having been implied.
107 posted on 12/16/2007 3:05:02 PM PST by aruanan
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If she’d have been using .357 Mag she wouldn’t have needed 10 rounds anyway.


115 posted on 12/16/2007 3:35:09 PM PST by Doohickey (Giuliani: Brokeback Republican)
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The article explains two things.
First, her Beretta is most likely in 9mm, a lethal round, but it is known for it’s insufficient stopping power.
Second, that the State of Colorado is run by a bunch of nannies who are afraid that armed guards might actually be armed.


123 posted on 12/16/2007 4:48:17 PM PST by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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The Lord protected her in more ways than one.


138 posted on 12/16/2007 7:15:15 PM PST by pray4liberty (The Truth sinks people whose only recourse is lies.)
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Wonder why this incident isn’t more in the news?

It’s only a week old.

Would the coverage be the same (ie, virutally nonexistent) if say, someone had opened fire on a “Gay Pride” parade?


152 posted on 12/16/2007 9:54:49 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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What I find interesting is that the church felt it necessary to have security in the first place. I’m glad they did. Is that church located in a high crime area or did they receive threats, perhaps from the now dead shooter?


160 posted on 12/17/2007 7:10:28 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Found this in the news... but, you know it’s a buncha liberals that wrote it.

Colorado Springs may change gun rules for guards
Some say a well-armed young man’s attack on a church underscores the need to change a city ordinance so that security officers may carry semiautomatic weapons.
By DeeDee Correll, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

December 15, 2007

DENVER — In Colorado Springs, where a troubled young man brought an assault rifle, two semiautomatic handguns and 1,000 rounds of ammunition to a church, security guards aren’t allowed to carry anything more powerful than a revolver.

That could change early next year, when the city will consider a proposal to permit licensed security officers to carry semiautomatic weapons.

The proposed change doesn’t come in response to Sunday’s attack at New Life Church, where Matthew Murray, 24, shot five people before a volunteer guard stopped him with several shots. But some say the situation underscores the need for security officers to be as well-prepared as the criminals they may face.

“It’s just a common-sense issue. Do you want an old, outdated six-shooter up against a machine gun?” said John Pepe of Cheyenne Mountain Security, a private firm in Colorado Springs.

The existing ordinance dates back to the early 1980s, City Clerk Kathryn Young said. Though the ordinance itself does not specify what types of weapons a guard may carry, an attached policy spells out that guards may carry revolvers capable of holding as many as eight rounds of ammunition. The allowed revolvers, which can have 4- or 6-inch barrels, include .38s, .38 Specials and .357 magnums.

Young said that she wasn’t sure why city officials originally created the restriction, but that it wasn’t common for people to carry semiautomatics then.

The regulation applies only to those who work as paid contract security officers, city spokeswoman Sue Skiffington-Blumberg said.

She said the restriction on semiautomatic weapons did apply to volunteers such as Jeanne Assam, who was working at New Life Church during Sunday’s assault.

Assam returned fire with a Beretta 9-millimeter semiautomatic handgun, hitting Murray several times before he shot himself in the head.

A coalition of security firms has urged the city to change its position for a long time, Young said. About eight months ago, city officials began examining the policy, and they intend to propose changes in January.

Young said other Colorado cities had a variety of policies on the issue, with some restricting guards to revolvers and others allowing semiautomatic weapons.

The biggest disadvantage of a revolver is that it holds only five to seven rounds, whereas a semiautomatic can hold as many as 15, Pepe said. “If you’re in a line of fire, you want the best weapon possible,” he said.

Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which favors tighter firearms controls, said he saw the logic in allowing security officers to have the same firepower as a potential assailant. “We allow ordinary citizens to carry these things around. Why we do that, I don’t know. But if we’re going to allow that, we’re probably forcing the hand of security guards to do the same,” he said.

The real solution, he said, is for Congress to enact a new ban on assault weapons. “Then we wouldn’t have to have an arms race going,” he said.


166 posted on 12/17/2007 7:27:18 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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I’m enjoying watching the liberal mainstream media stagger from theory to theory as to what type of story is best to discredit this woman who’s heroism saved dozens, if not a hundred or more, respectful worshippers.

When you read the ‘trail ballon’s’ its pretty funny, actually.

And oh so very revealing.


189 posted on 12/17/2007 10:04:47 AM PST by Badeye (No thanks, Huck, I'm not whitewashing the fence for you this election cycle)
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Beretta PX-4 Storm

My next purchase.
209 posted on 12/17/2007 2:39:44 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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"if she had been licensed by the state [as a security guard], she would have been prevented from using the Beretta that she used to stop the crime."



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215 posted on 12/17/2007 6:41:31 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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Jeanette’s real identity is Deborah...the only female Judge from the book of Judges,.... and a feisty one at that!


221 posted on 12/18/2007 6:20:42 AM PST by mdmathis6
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