Posted on 12/16/2007 10:43:41 AM PST by marktwain
Jeanne Assam, the heroine of the New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs, would likely have been unable to carry the Beretta that she stopped the shooting with if she had been a licensed security guard.
An AP article published on 12 December noted that licensed security guards in Colorado Springs are restricted to the use of revolvers.
As Jeanne Assam was a volunteer parishioner who was performing security guard duties because the church did not want to hire “mercenaries”, she was almost certainly not affected by the regulations, which only apply to government regulated security guards.
Fortunately, her lack of official status with the state and city allowed her to carry a firearm with sufficient firepower to accomplish the necessary task.
Jeannette had to fire 10 rounds to keep her fellow parishoners safe.
That’s my solution to the equation personally, but I only carry 15 rounds loaded and 1 spare magazine, so I’m limited to a measly 30 rounds.
You would be blinded by the flash. I sure would not want to fire a compensated pistol in dim light.
I wonder if we could get the grouping photos from the autopsy? Proud of her!
“I wonder if we could get the grouping photos from the autopsy? Proud of her!”
Another source said that, according to the Coroner, she hit the mass killer three times, twice in the thigh, and once in the wrist.
In this type of close combat, that is quite good shooting.
Grammar is all.
The title uses “may,” which is basically the subjunctive in modern English usage, and suggests that she WAS a security guard and it’s POSSIBLE therefore that she would not have been able to use that particular weapon.
However, she was not a security guard, and thus she was simply using a particular weapon that was perfectly legimate for her to use.
Therefore, the headline should have been, “Colorado Heroine Would Have Been Legally Prevented from Using Beretta if a Security Guard.”
More so than 10 9mm rounds, but I don't really want to start that argument. I'll compromise by saying it's where you place the shots, not the caliber or power of the cartridge.
Perhaps. She found the Beretta 9mm and 10 shots to be sufficient.
If one could be prescient, I would have suggested an AR-15 for the encounter, but you only have the choice of what you have with you at the time.
BTW, the headline is klutzy in any case. Da Post (NY Post) could have gotten the facts into about 5 words. Well, maybe 6.
Femural artery shot is as good as a chest wound, a nice bleeder.
The title uses “may,” which is basically the subjunctive in modern English usage, and suggests that she WAS a security guard and it’s POSSIBLE therefore that she would not have been able to use that particular weapon.
However, she was not a security guard, and thus she was simply using a particular weapon that was perfectly legimate for her to use.
Therefore, the headline should have been, “Colorado Heroine Would Have Been Legally Prevented from Using Beretta if a Security Guard.”
You have a point. If I were omniscient, I would have used “would” instead of “may”. I did not have access to the definition in the city ordnance. I wanted to point out the legal difference that I was 99 percent sure of. The original AP article left room for doubt, and I wanted to be precise.
Plus blow everyone's eardrums out and spatter perp all over the church.
For carry, I need something much smaller. Kahr, walther, keltec, seacamp, etc. Otherwise, I just leave it home.
I've got a Taurus PT-99, which is very similar to the Beretta (in fact, Taurus bought their tooling from Beretta). It's a terrific gun, and in fact, I used to use it for USPSA competition: Imagine an Ernie Hill Speed Leather rig, along with that gun with 17 rounds in the mag, and 3 extra 17 round mags on my belt! It was a miracle that my pants weren't down around my ankles!
I'm big enough that with a jacket, I can CC my S&W 625-5, a .45ACP N-Frame... But as you said, I'd really hate to carry it every day. Although I haven't gone to the trouble to get a CCW permit (I live in MO, but work in KS, which hasn't quite worked out their CCW just yet, regarding out of state residents, or if they'll honor MO CCW permits) but my "carry weapon" will probably be my Star Firestar in .40S&W. Not a whole lot of fun to shoot. It's about the size of a .380 auto, and it just beats the hell out of your thumb knuckle when fired.
Mark
Thanks for the constructive criticism. I can always learn, and Freerepublic is a great University.
As a member of the Pajamamedia, I strive for ever better accuracy and style.
The most popular security revolver is a Ruger Security Six, I think. A good, reliable gun, which comes chambered for .357. If she had to carry a wheelgun, it is likely she would have had one of these.
Well, they say that if you’re in bear country your sidearm’s calibre should start with at least a ‘.4’
I think yours qualifies!!!
If she were in the alice-in-wonderland world of the U.S. Military she would probably be facing Court Martial.
I suspect that it is a Smith & Wesson model 10 in .38 Smith & Wesson Special caliber. It was the standard police gun for decades, and they were dirt cheap on the used police gun market from about 1992 to 2002. I bought and sold dozens when I had an FFL, many re imported from England when the bobbies switched to Glocks.
Nice.
Question: Is it better to get your cast before or after breaking your wrist firing that thing?
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