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Children? Not If You Love The Planet (Mark Steyn Looks At Enviro Wackoism Gone Wild Alert)
Orange County Register ^ | 12/15/2007 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/15/2007 7:39:54 AM PST by goldstategop

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To: goldstategop

For the people who don’t click on the full article:

The American Thinker’s Web site ran the numbers. In the seven years between the signing of Kyoto in 1997 and 2004, here’s what happened:

•Emissions worldwide increased 18.0 percent;

•Emissions from countries that signed the treaty increased 21.1 percent;

•Emissions from nonsigners increased 10.0 percent; and

•Emissions from the United States increased 6.6 percent.


21 posted on 12/15/2007 8:27:48 AM PST by tlb
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To: goldstategop
Its ironic those who care for the children don't have any themselves.

The entire Left way of thinking is ironic.

For example, people who cannot even balance THEIR OWN checkbook think they can boost an economy by redistributing wealth by soaking the rich (meaning everyone with a job) with taxes.

22 posted on 12/15/2007 8:31:47 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: goldstategop
We must all oppose it for the sake of the human future.

In a certain perverse way, I'm all in favor of this latest "progressive" fad.

It should effectively rid the world of enviro-wackoism in the course of one generation.

23 posted on 12/15/2007 8:34:51 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: tlb
•Emissions worldwide increased 18.0 percent;

•Emissions from countries that signed the treaty increased 21.1 percent;

•Emissions from nonsigners increased 10.0 percent; and

•Emissions from the United States increased 6.6 percent.

This just proves the point.

When in doubt, do the OPPOSITE of what a lefty think is the correct thing to do.

24 posted on 12/15/2007 8:35:13 AM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: SteamShovel
Algore blames America for leading the resistance to GW when in fact as the statistics presented demonstrate, America has REDUCED its GW emissions even in the ABSENCE of a formal commitment to Kyoto. And all without coercive government intervention in the economy. But that doesn't suit the Left's need to blame America for all the world's evils.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 12/15/2007 8:41:03 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I always find myself saying "Best Steyn ever" but this really is the best Steyn ever.

It's hard not to conclude a form of mental illness has gripped the world's elites. If you're one of that dwindling band of Westerners who'll be celebrating the birth of a child, "homeless" or otherwise, next week, make the most of it. A year or two on, and the eco-professors will propose banning Nativity scenes because they set a bad example.

26 posted on 12/15/2007 8:48:09 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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I suspect in fact that's the true motivation behind banning the Nativity Scene. Jesus is the embodiment of every thing the Left detests about Western Civilization. The Bible and its Judeo-Christian values have to go. Of course if they do, Nature abhors a vacuum. Its not going to be neo-paganism filling the space that's left but Islam.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

27 posted on 12/15/2007 8:51:50 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Its ironic those who care for the children don't have any themselves. That's the Left's post modern anti-humanism in a nutshell.

The idea, it seems to me, is that because humanity was not good enough to make Marxxism work, then it has no right to exist at all.

28 posted on 12/15/2007 9:01:36 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: goldstategop
Today's Left has adopted a trendy ant-natalist position: children are bad for the planet's future.

Yesterday's left promoted the same belief.

29 posted on 12/15/2007 9:03:27 AM PST by GoLightly
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To: goldstategop
Enviro Wackoism, taken to its logical conclusion, is about the destruction of civilization.

Actually, it's not about the destruction of civilization, it's about the extinction of humanity.

30 posted on 12/15/2007 9:10:45 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jeff Head
At those rates, with the left having very few or none, and folks like me producing hundreds of great and great-great grankids...and teaching them conservative principles and to raise thier own properly as God-fearing all-American individuals...in another 2-3 generations...there will be no-left of any consequence.

Good for you! Conservatives need to keep breeding and producing great, productive children that will be the leaders of tomorrow. The left will become like the Shakers - eventually, there will be none of them left. (I know I'm being overly hopeful, but I'm an optimist.)

I hope you have many grandchildren & great-grandchildren!

31 posted on 12/15/2007 9:14:45 AM PST by alicewonders (Duncan Hunter needs to be our next Sec. of Defense, Dir. of Homeland Security - or Vice President)
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To: varyouga; goldstategop; gridlock

This has happened before: the Albigensian madness in southern France in the 12th and 13th Century. This was a gnostic religious movement which held that the physical world was evil and created by Satan.

They said the worst crime was to “cruelly” trap another soul in flesh by bringing another child into the world. Their main commandment was to abstain from natural (procreative) intercourse.

Their leaders, called Cathari, were celibate and morbidly ascetical: they wouldn’t eat meat or burn a fire to keep warm (small carbon footprint?) -—and they condemned the Catholics who said it was morally OK to eat and drink and keep warm and marry and make love and have children.

The Albigensians told their followers that Christianity (Catholicism) was a lie and that they had no religious or moral obligations other than childlessness. It was OK for them to have non-procreativesex , so homosexuality and contraception were virtuous.

The Catholic Church was appalled by the rapid spread of this insane movement across southern France. After the failure of peaceful attempts at conversion, the Church was able to defeat them only by calling a Crusade.

What’s next with the New Albigensians? Watch and see.


32 posted on 12/15/2007 9:22:18 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Just to be is a Blessing; just to live is Holy." --Rabbi Abraham Heschel)
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To: goldstategop
A year or two on, and the eco-professors will propose banning Nativity scenes because they set a bad example.
33 posted on 12/15/2007 9:22:25 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: DuncanWaring

If they want to take this to its logical conclusion, then they should KILL THEMSELVES! In an environmentally friendly way, of course.


34 posted on 12/15/2007 9:26:49 AM PST by yawningotter
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To: Jeff Head
It all ultimately imminates from the same dark place..

I have been saying this for some time now. The dark forces of Lucifer AKA Satan AKA The Devil, are very much alive today. It is my humble opinion that this dark force was behind the beginnings of Islam. Mohammad was a prophet all right, a prophet of death and darkness! He was the devil's handmaiden.

35 posted on 12/15/2007 9:28:50 AM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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To: Jeff Head

Good for you! Remember that though the neo-Malthusians and neo-Ludites don’t procreate, they do recruit. They control the major sources of American children’s spiritual (de)formation: the TV, the Mall, and the Public School .

I pray every day on my knees: O Lord, protect my boys.


36 posted on 12/15/2007 9:29:45 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Public schools are the reproductive organs of liberalism.)
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To: goldstategop
Not according to the Bible!

Genesis 1:26-28
 
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4 Then God said: "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and the cattle, and over all the wild animals and all the creatures that crawl on the ground."
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God created man in his image; in the divine image he created him; male and female he created them.
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God blessed them, saying: "Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it. Have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and all the living things that move on the earth."

37 posted on 12/15/2007 9:33:10 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: goldstategop
Fine. Let enviro-nut liberals not have children while conservatives have all the children they can handle.

That form of evolution I can agree with.

38 posted on 12/15/2007 9:33:39 AM PST by ryan71
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To: RedMonqey
"Unless the antis demand the pro baby faction to “abort” their babies too."

They'll try. They'll go for imposing a $5,000 carbon tax on parents for every childbirth. They'll promote homosexuality in the schools (Gay-Straight Alliance in the middle and high schools) and in the media. The "Will and Grace" generation --- all our kids' peers --- think homosexuality is morally neutral, just a kind of natural diversity like right-and left-handedness.

And I'll bet 80% of FReepers have no objection to marital contraception. Heterosexual gays.

39 posted on 12/15/2007 9:34:31 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Public schools are the reproductive organs of liberalism.)
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To: yawningotter

Perhaps in the manner of Timothy Treadwell, “recycling” themselves.


40 posted on 12/15/2007 9:36:45 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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