Posted on 12/11/2007 4:50:40 PM PST by charles m
LAS VEGAS - Six junior high or high school students were shot Tuesday after they got off a school bus, and two were critically hurt, police said.
Gunshots rang out in northeast Las Vegas just before 2 p.m., Officer Bill Cassell said.
Six young people were transported to area hospitals. Four had minor gunshot injuries and two were in critical condition, Cassell said.
At least two people are believed to have taken part in the shootings, he said. Police were not saying whether the shooting suspects were on foot or in a vehicle.
The shooting occurred less than a mile from two elementary schools, Woolley and Clyde Cox Elementary Schools. A Clark County School District official said the schools were not closed.
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Associated Press writer Kathleen Hennessey contributed to this report.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
LAS VEGAS (AP) — Six junior high or high school students were shot Tuesday after they got off a school bus, and two were critically hurt, police said.
Gunshots rang out in northeast Las Vegas just before 2 p.m., Officer Bill Cassell said.
Six young people were transported to area hospitals. Four had minor gunshot injuries and two were in critical condition, Cassell said.
At least two people are believed to have taken part in the shootings, he said. Police were not saying whether the shooting suspects were on foot or in a vehicle.
I have no knowledge of the private school where Gabz lives, but I know there was one near here...it was supposed to be a Christian school, but there were several other Christian schools in the area, some with better academic reputations.
The teachers claimed that this particular school had very little discipline, and would let in the students who'd been expelled from the public schools for bad behavior, if the parents had the $$$, and the students continued the same behaviors in this school. Apparently those running the schools either felt they needed the tuition money that badly, or maybe they thought they could reform the little darlings. The teachers I talked to thought it was the former.
Perhaps you should read Dianna's post #157 above. There's a LOT of truth in it.
Isn’t the point of a teachers union to represent the teachers?
Probably so, but I don't like the agenda the union pushes, so I don't belong. Do YOU belong to a union?
School Doctors are doing it. Under most state laws, I believe while kids are in school, the Docs have medical control over the kids. I believe that is true.
I no longer have kids in school so I am not totally up on the rules/laws.
You must live in a rich state. We don't have school doctors, just school nurses.
Our school nurses aren't allowed to prescribe drugs. They can't even give a kid tylenol if he has a headache or she has cramps. In fact, they can't even give out cough drops.
As I say, your state may be different.
I think we just need to get over the idea that big cities are a good thing.
Of course they ar gang related. And if schools and communities do not start dismantling these gangs, there will be a lot more shooting. Gangs need to be beaten down, dismantled and ground into dust. Or all of our urban communities will be controlled by petty war lords operating confidence rackets.
BUT GUN CONTROL IS WHAT WE NEED ( sarc.).
Much truth in what you say.
Most communities are diverse enough that it’s not practically as easy or as common for what you say to carry the day . . . imho.
Haven’t done a study. LOL.
Maybe at the junior high or high school level, but most elementary schools are still very much "neighborhood schools" with populations of 500 students or less.
“However, in society, we have also seen larger numbers of broken homes, more single parents, more permissive parenting, and an upswing in lawsuits.”
All the above ideas are encouraged philosophically in public schools. The more failed the “family” one comes from, the more Bohemian and heroic.
> Wow, I’m glad to see how well gun laws keep guns out of criminals and gangs hands. </s>
I hear and agree with you. Gun laws don’t work. If guns were in the hands of private law abiding citizens then there would be less murder sprees. When was the last time you heard of a killing spree at a shooting range?
Murderers like the Va Tech guy, the Omaha Mall guy, the church guy and the Mall guy here in Houston should be referred to as total losers. I agree that these losers should be castigated at every chance. Every opportunity to call them failures and losers should be taken. The commentators should say "why would anybody want to go down in history as such a pathetic loser who killed innocents because nobody liked his creepy, sorry ass?"
[QUOTE wikipedia] In 1946, Spock published his book The Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care, which became a bestseller. By 1998 it had sold more than 50 million copies. It has been translated into 39 languages. Later he wrote three more books about parenting. Spock advocated ideas about parenting that were, at the time, considered out of the mainstream. Over time, his books helped to bring about a major change, if not a reversal, in the opinions of those who considered themselves to be the experts. Previously, experts had told parents that babies needed to learn to sleep on a regular schedule, and that picking them up and holding them whenever they cried would only teach them to cry more and not to sleep through the night (a notion that borrows from behaviorism). They were told to feed their children on a regular schedule, and that they should not pick them up, kiss them, or hug them, because that would not prepare them to be strong and independent individuals in a harsh world. Claims that Dr. Spock advocated permissiveness Some have seen Spock as the leader in the move toward more permissive parenting in general, and have blamed him for what they saw as the negative results. Norman Vincent Peale claimed in the late 1960s that "the U.S. was paying the price of two generations that followed the Dr. Spock baby plan of instant gratification of needs."[citation needed] Vice President Spiro Agnew denounced him as the "father of permissiveness," claiming that Dr. Spock's child rearing principles encouraged lawlessness among young people in the 1960s Spock's supporters believed that these criticisms betrayed an ignorance of what Spock had actually written, and/or a political bias against Spock's left-wing political activities. Spock himself, in his autobiography, pointed out that he had never advocated permissiveness;[citation needed] also, that the attacks and claims that he had ruined American youth only arose after his public opposition to the Vietnam war. He regarded these claims as ad hominem attacks, whose political motivation and nature was clear [/QUOTE]
Wow. Just when I thought our country had reached the lowest point possible, there is a fourth mass shooting in a week.
I think we all need to say prayers for the victims and their families
actually, taxes were MUCH higher before the boomers. During the 1950s, the top income tax rate was 90%!
Couldn’t agree more. The teachers are doing a good job at our schools.
The problem is the secularist liberals trying to tear this country to pieces with their deranged idiocy, not just in schools, but courts, govt., helathcare etc.
I wish it WAS only public school!
Crap look at what comes AFTER public school: Va. Tech!
Nobody actually paid a 90% rate though. The 90% bracket didn’t kick in until $400,000, when the average family income was under $5,000. The equivalent today would be about 5 million dollars.
The (very) few people with that kind of money were liquid enough to exploit the politically favored industry shelters - in fact, their money was forced into those politically favored industries which was exactly the point. A command economy under the guise of choice.
In terms of percent of GDP, individual income tax collections were about 7.5% of GDP in the 50s. Today they are 8.5%. The four highest individual income tax years in US history were 1998-2001, averaging 9.8%.
Solution to Gang Violence in America...
Place a $5000 bounty for the corpse of ANY tattooed gang members...
If tattoos are from a “high profile” or murderous gang, such as M13 — the bounty is doubled..
Corpses must be delivered to the local police department, and tattoos will be examined for authenticity and AGE..
Corpses with bleeding or fresh tattoos will NOT be accepted..
My thoughts exactly.
Learn about Darwin, survival of the fittest.
(Just ask the high school freshman who gets his a$$ kicked and endures insults every day because hes not big enough to fight back. Then, he gets an offer of some cheap drugs.)
Learn how the Fed Gubmint is our savior with pockets so deep they never end. (Teachers, the Priests of liberalism just cant resist pushing it.)
No moral training, no responsibility.
IMHO, Public schools stink worse than most people realize.
All part of a carefully cultivated plan to render Americans incapable of self-government.
Step 1: Monopolize education.
Step 2: Fail at it. The greater the failure, the better.
Step 3: Take control from the resulting ignorant masses “for the good of the people”.
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” —Thomas Jefferson
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