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Four People Shot Outside Colorado Springs New Life Church
Fox News ^ | 09 DEC 07 | Fox News

Posted on 12/09/2007 12:49:26 PM PST by aomagrat

Edited on 12/09/2007 12:59:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

[I waited 45 seconds and actually posted something substantial--Ed.]

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — At least four people were shot outside of a Colorado Springs church on Sunday, but it was not immediately known whether the shootings were related to an earlier shooting about 70 miles away, authorities said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: antichristian; assam; banglist; bombs; christian; christianpersecution; church; churchshooting; colorado; coloradosprings; enemedia; goldencompasskiller; hatecrime; hometown; ieds; newlifechurch; persecution; tedhaggard; thegoldencompass; wonderwoman
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To: El Gato

Oh, sorry - I just joined the thread and hadn’t read anything before the last page before this one. Didn’t know the OU bomber had already been discussed. Sorry!


901 posted on 12/09/2007 5:58:20 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Quix

now hearing that the security guard is a cop - makes me think there may have been intel on threats made against the church. She could even have been undercover.


902 posted on 12/09/2007 5:59:32 PM PST by RDTF (Remember Pearl Harbor)
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To: Quix; Marysecretary
CNN won't report this...but, God has, through you. Thank you for sharing this, Quix:
WOW!! Our God is MIGHTY!! In the midst of what the devil may have planned to bomb a church full of people, GOD INTERVENED!!He spoke to one lady to volunteer her “sharp shooter services” as a security guard and prevented what might have been a much more serious tragedy!
"Our God is an Awesome God,
He reigns from heaven above
With wisdom, power and love
Our God is an awesome God...."

903 posted on 12/09/2007 5:59:55 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: LibertyRocks
I’m not all that familiar with CO Springs’ laws.

Very reasonable. Good CCW rules, and such.

904 posted on 12/09/2007 6:00:10 PM PST by r9etb
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

It could have been.

We discussed it on The Threat Matrix.
Freeper Oorang originally posted the
grenade snippet and link.
I brought over a link and pretty soon the
main stream media picked it up ( or so it
seemed).


905 posted on 12/09/2007 6:02:00 PM PST by Cindy
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To: nicmarlo
From my vague recollection, yes, gun laws were passed after Columbine. I lived in Colorado at the time...I seem to recall participating in a vote concerning gun control measures back then.

Our friends the Brady's have a handy page for each state that lists their various pet law projects and whether or not the state has implemented them at www.stategunlaws.org. Colorado looks pretty good to me, though it's no Texas.

906 posted on 12/09/2007 6:03:41 PM PST by Hazwaste (Now with added lemony freshness!)
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To: Rte66

I’m sure he is...
In reading through some of the info in the thread this definitely NOT looking like it was a “Random” act of violence unlike the mall shootings over the last few days, either. So many questions right now... I wonder what type of IEDs these were and why they didn’t go off (perhaps the perp didn’t realize he would be stopped so soon???). I’m also very curious whether there was in fact a second shooter...

Is it just me, or do you too find it rather odd that they would not be releasing the name of the shooter at this point? It seems like even when they don’t announce the names of the victims usually the perp is identified ASAP. I wonder if he had any sort of identification on him at all, or if he is a John Doe at this point...

I’m curious if this was an attack against the church itself, or if the church was picked due to its visibility as a large Christian Community...


907 posted on 12/09/2007 6:04:42 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: RDTF

I would expect. More power to her.


908 posted on 12/09/2007 6:04:46 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Another interesting piece of information: [daughter] has been doing bible study with a lady who is a police officer and a “sharp shooter.” Recently she felt led to contact the church and offer her services as a “security guard” because she felt that there was a risk of some looney doing something crazy. She was apparantely the one who killed the shooter.

WOW, Quix. Amazing.

909 posted on 12/09/2007 6:05:41 PM PST by Velveeta (Duncan Hunter, 08' !!! The real conservative.)
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To: r9etb

Probably why I’m not that familiar with them! :) And, thank the L-rd that this is the case. Had this happened in Denver the outcome would’ve been much different I fear and we’d be talking about a much higher number of casualties.


910 posted on 12/09/2007 6:06:16 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: nicmarlo

Wouldn’t it have been a bit more efficient for an all-powerful deity to simply cause his gun to misfire as well?


911 posted on 12/09/2007 6:06:39 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Rte66

Hmmmmm

Growing up just South of CO, my folks always insisted that CO had an above average percentage of commies in it—strategically placed there in the center of the country.

I think CO Springs has become a Christian hotbed in part because God directed some Christiam ministries to grow there because of some witches covens etc. proliferating there.

Then there’s the military et al . . .

And Dulce, Los Alamos not far south . . .

Wheeeee


912 posted on 12/09/2007 6:07:01 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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Who is setting up a prayers/sympathies/condolences page for the congregation at New Life Church and the missionary center?


913 posted on 12/09/2007 6:07:51 PM PST by combat_boots (She lives! 22 weeks, 9.5 inches. Go, baby, go!)
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To: LibertyRocks
Is it just me, or do you too find it rather odd that they would not be releasing the name of the shooter at this point? It seems like even when they don’t announce the names of the victims usually the perp is identified ASAP. I wonder if he had any sort of identification on him at all, or if he is a John Doe at this point...

If there's a connection to the shooting in Arvada they may not release his name yet. ALso, if it's true that they think he's wired for explosives, they may not have gotten close enough. I'd go the "ongoing investigation" route, and not read too much into it.

I’m curious if this was an attack against the church itself, or if the church was picked due to its visibility as a large Christian Community...

Probably both, IMO. My guess is that he'll turn out to be a "disaffected youth," of the goth sort.

914 posted on 12/09/2007 6:08:01 PM PST by r9etb
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To: RDTF

Interesting.

But I am going with the conviction that God insured that the right lady/sharp-shooter was in the right place at the right time . . . well ahead of time.


915 posted on 12/09/2007 6:08:15 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: nicmarlo

INDEED.

As far as I’m concerned.


916 posted on 12/09/2007 6:08:41 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Cindy

YWAM has a branch out of New Life Church in Colorado Springs.


917 posted on 12/09/2007 6:09:09 PM PST by Velveeta (Duncan Hunter, 08' !!! The real conservative.)
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To: Strategerist
Wouldn’t it have been a bit more efficient for an all-powerful deity to simply cause his gun to misfire as well?

Oh, I don't know -- perhaps His will was to flush out the idiots at FR.

918 posted on 12/09/2007 6:09:35 PM PST by r9etb
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To: cookcounty
It's a mega church, huge operation 10,000+ in attendance

Meaning its quite likely that there are plenty of police, sherrifs deputies, including reserve cops and deputies, in the congregation. Why pay a private firm for a few hours on the weekend. Oh they'd probably have some permanent security types, but on a 24/7 basis, rather than "just on Wednsday evening, Saturday night and Sunday".

919 posted on 12/09/2007 6:10:02 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Quix

Thank you so much for the information Quix. Praise G-d that this woman listened to His voice inside her... I think she saved a great many lives today...

I am so glad your friend and her children are safe. I will be keeping everyone involved in this situation in my prayers... It’s clearly not quite over yet as from what you are saying it doesn’t sound like the area has been secured...


920 posted on 12/09/2007 6:10:03 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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