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The GOP nomination is up for grabs
RealClearPolitics ^ | December 9th 2007 | Salena Zito

Posted on 12/09/2007 6:07:52 AM PST by LonesomeHawk

The GOP Race is Still Up for Grabs RealClearPolitics By Salena Zito

The most intriguing aspect of the Republicans' road to the nomination for president is its unpredictability. It's a buckle-up race that won't be decided early or easy. About the only thing for certain is that anything can happen and anyone can win.

Campaign strategists for four candidates -- Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee and John McCain -- can sit down straight-faced, without spin, and outline a plausible scenario for how their guy can win the nomination.

And for each legitimate win-scenario is an equally legitimate reason they cannot win.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire; US: Pennsylvania; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; duncanhunter; electionpresident; elections; fred; giuliani; gop; huckabee; hunter; mccain; pennsylvania; pittsburgh; republicans; romney; ronpaul; thompson
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To: LonesomeHawk
The GOP nomination is up for grabs

I'm pretty sure BOTH parties' nominations are up for grabs. The first votes haven't been cast yet.

41 posted on 12/09/2007 12:12:22 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: LonesomeHawk
Mike Huckabee:

"I now believe that the only thing the American people are going to accept — and, frankly, the only thing that really makes sense — is a pathway that sends people back to the starting point. But this idea of the waiting years — no, I don't agree with that...You do have a pathway that gets you back home.

But that pathway to get back here legally doesn't take years. It would take days, maybe weeks, and then people could come back in the workforce."

Need compassion? Call 911-HUCK!

42 posted on 12/09/2007 12:24:13 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Amnesty is Huckabee's middle name!)
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Consider the troops in Iraq, and vote for the lesser. At least our troops will continue to get funding and support.


43 posted on 12/09/2007 12:30:18 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: Marie2

With all do respect, I’m not sure what you mean (or talking about).

In 1989, our soldiers had to come in to fix the mess and many died.


44 posted on 12/09/2007 1:06:51 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
...give me one reason anyone with half a brain would want a Democrat.

Since when does the majority of the electorate have half a brain? It's a sad fact that most people are clueless about issues. (none of the people here, BTW) They vote for the name they've heard most often on television.
45 posted on 12/09/2007 1:11:15 PM PST by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: MSF BU
"he is no a natural second choice of this Hunter supporter because I don’t believe what he says he stands for is actually what he’ll do."

Ok, I'm curious, who's your fallback candidate? I tentatively support Fred, but I'm looking for a second choice.

46 posted on 12/09/2007 1:11:57 PM PST by matthew fuller (Yo, First Dude- Got your "legacy"- Bush's Border Baby Boomers.)
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To: wolfpat

Yours is the ONLY explanation. Then we have those on our side buying into these lies that there might actually be some substantive reason to elect Democrats. There is not ONE reason to EVER elect a Democrat.


47 posted on 12/09/2007 1:47:17 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

The only people who vote for democRATS on purpose think the RATS will give them stuff.


48 posted on 12/09/2007 2:15:20 PM PST by wolfpat (If you don't like the Patriot Act, you're really gonna hate Sharia Law.)
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To: wolfpat

Agreed.


49 posted on 12/09/2007 2:21:56 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: LonesomeHawk
Campaign strategists for four candidates -- Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee and John McCain -- can sit down straight-faced, without spin, and outline a plausible scenario for how their guy can win the nomination.

Thewse days I'm kind of pulling for Thompson.

50 posted on 12/09/2007 2:55:59 PM PST by stevem
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To: RockinRight

...because, unlike Reagan, he was never a movement conservative, that’s why.


51 posted on 12/09/2007 4:38:25 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: MSF BU

Nobody in this race is.


52 posted on 12/09/2007 4:39:57 PM PST by RockinRight (Rumors of Fred Thompson's death have been greatly exaggerated.)
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To: matthew fuller

I guess I have no fallback candidate. I vote in NH and I’ll vote for Hunter. Then, to paraphrase William Loeb’s 1976 advice, I’ll hold my nose and vote for the Republican nominee. If I had to bet now I’d bet the Republican Party will nominate a half-ass candidate (possibly a draft dodger and/or adulterer) and that candidate will go on to lose. The more I look at the front runners, the more I learn about their backgrounds, the less respect I have for ALL of them.


53 posted on 12/09/2007 4:43:00 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: ElPatriota
"Of course I agree with you and to reinforced your point, let's be clear, that we HAVE A SUPERIOR, FANTASTIC candidate in hunter!"

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Good Lord.

Much as I like Hunter, the Hunterites are getting as tiresome as the Ron Paul people.

"SUPERIOR, FANTASTIC" candidates do not score just below Ron Paul and just above Pat Sajak on opinion polls.

Duncan Hunter is not going to be the GOP nominee. Period. The sooner you come to grips with that reality, the sooner you can decide which serious candidate you will support.

Hank

54 posted on 12/09/2007 4:43:14 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: RockinRight

Certainly Hunter is, you can probably make a case for Paul and Tancredo as well thought in my estimation the latter two are flawed candidates.


55 posted on 12/09/2007 4:44:10 PM PST by MSF BU (++)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
..The sooner you come to grips with that reality, the sooner you can decide which serious candidate you will support...

Normally I would not even bother answering a post like this because it turns out to be a waste of time. But let me ask you, what do we then suppose to do? Whether Hunter becomes nominee or not, does change the fact that he IS a quality candidate and in my opinion as well other's, way better than even the one FR seems to have chosen already.

56 posted on 12/09/2007 5:09:38 PM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president)
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To: MSF BU

I don’t guess that you need one with your primary so early- mine’s in March, I think. If hunter doesn’t do something soon, he’ll be out soon I think. Same with Fred. And what’s left sucks!


57 posted on 12/09/2007 5:50:50 PM PST by matthew fuller (Yo, First Dude- Got your "legacy"- Bush's Border Baby Boomers.)
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To: ElPatriota
" But let me ask you, what do we then suppose to do? Whether Hunter becomes nominee or not, does change the fact that he IS a quality candidate and in my opinion as well other's...."

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He's a quality person. He's a quality Congressman. He's a quality conservative. Correct that, he's an OUTSTANDING conservative.

None of that makes him a quality candidate. Quality candidates win elections - in fact, that's the definition of a quality candidate. Candidates who DON'T win elections, whatever other virtues they may have, are known as "losing" candidates.

Hunter has given no indication - not one - that he's going to win anything other than a meaningless straw poll here and there. He's raised very little money. After running for a year, he has little name recognition. And as I've already pointed out, his poll numbers are in the tank.

I WISH ALL THIS WERE NOT TRUE. I myself started off as a Tancredo supporter, but months ago came to the realization that I was on a Quixotic quest. That doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see Tancredo elected. It just means I have the discernment to see that it ain't gonna happen.

So to your question: what are you supposed to do? Well, you asked, so I'll presume to answer. I'd review the five candidates who have a >0.0001% chance of winning the nomination, pick the one who I can best live with and support him. Then I'd agitate to make Hunter Secretary of Defense; a post for which he's exceptionally well qualified.

But that's just me, as Dennis Miller used to say. I could be wrong....

Hank

58 posted on 12/09/2007 7:29:05 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: Uncle Ivan
>> Not a one of those are conservative. Our party has been hijacked. Truly sad. <<

According to the Fredheads, ANYONE who dares enter the race and isn't named "Fred Thompson" is an eeeeeeeeevil RINO socialist.

The Paulites have a simular mindset that any candidate not named "Ron Paul" is an unconstiutional marxist scumbag.

However the Paulities are unhinged to begin with, whereas the Fredheads appear to be sane but still share the same narrow minded delusional "MY way or the highway" outlook of Ron Paul.

Scary.

59 posted on 12/09/2007 7:37:16 PM PST by BillyBoy (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Ronald Reagan, he's the second coming of Stephen Douglas!)
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; therut; Laissez-faire capitalist; MARTIAL MONK; Zhang Fei; napscoordinator; ...
The McCain List.
60 posted on 12/09/2007 7:38:25 PM PST by Norman Bates
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