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1 posted on 12/04/2007 10:21:53 PM PST by Hardshell
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How about that?

Looks like Mr. Horn’s shotgun was something of a spotlight. First I’ve read about this PR driver’s license scam, though I suspected it might be happening or would happen.

To whom are the Columbians selling weapons? Street criminals? Or, more sinister types?


2 posted on 12/04/2007 10:27:12 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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Give Joe Horn a medal.
3 posted on 12/04/2007 10:28:43 PM PST by DB
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Citizens are killed daily by illegals, both accidentally and intentionally. The neighbor could have been another statistic as those Colombians were up to no good, had robbery on their minds, and were carrying something that could be used as a weapon to harm their victim. They were as armed as if they had a loaded gun. They died, but it looks like a greater tragedy was averted.

Like the border guards whose "victim" got immunity, only to commit another crime, we need a separate set of laws for illegals who commit crimes.

4 posted on 12/04/2007 10:29:56 PM PST by MHT
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Let all armed intruders obfuscated identities be sorted out in the morgue while reporters refrain from crying “racism” when homeowners only see thugs invading their homes.


6 posted on 12/04/2007 10:32:46 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (2008 - Won't Get Fooled Again...No No)
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A worthy article, thanks for posting.

But...use the actual article title to avoid reposts (FR rules!).

Such actual titles will also avoid embarrassing grammar errors.

To wit: Were burglars killed by neighbor in U.S. illegally?
implies that the neighbor was in the U.S. illegally.

What you *meant* to say was “Were burglars in U.S. illegally who were killed by neighbor?

Say it that way and it’s clear that the *burglars* were in the U.S. illegally.

7 posted on 12/04/2007 10:33:17 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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It looks as if Joe Horn was just doing what Jorge Arbusto is just unwilling to do.

Protect these United States from the invasion from a foreign power.


8 posted on 12/04/2007 10:34:25 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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I’d say a phony driver’s license is the least of these dead criminal’s problems.


9 posted on 12/04/2007 10:41:06 PM PST by ozzymandus
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As a general rule, I don’t like seeing someone killed over property. In this instance it’s beginning to look like foreign nationals have been preying on U.S. Citizens because our laws protect them. What’s the worst that could happen? They spend a few years in jail after making thier bosses huge sums of money. Well, I was raised to believe that crime doesn’t pay. And perhaps it’s time to take the gloves off and let criminals know that we’re note screwing around with them any longer.

If you want to risk your life trying to steal other people’s property, then you’ve have made the decision. If you wind up dead, it was your choice.

I have a rule of thumb when it comes to people shot during home invasion robberies or simple burglaries. If the criminal had stayed away, they would not have faced a violent outcome. The home owner or his neighbors didn’t go looking for someone to kill. The criminals chose to invade other peoples property to steal the fruits of their labor, and as part of that decision, they accepted that they would have to pay a stiff penalty if caught. Well, these two did pay.

If you have criminal leanings, go ahead and try to rip people off. Just be aware that you may not live to see the next day. After making that decison, I think the criminal is fair game. Shoot the MoFos and don’t look back.

Get the pooper scooper out and dispose of the human waste. It’s been open season on law abiding citizens for decades. It’s time that came to an end.

I will say that folks should be very careful about who they gun down. If a well meaning person ends the life of an innocent, they should face a hell of a sentence for having done so.


10 posted on 12/04/2007 10:48:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Mr. President, Article IV Section IV is in our Constitution, and the states it refers to are ours.)
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Were burglars killed by neighbor in U.S. illegally?

Was the neighbor in the U. S. illegally or were the burglars in the U. S. illegally. The headline reads as if the neighbor was in the U. S. illegally.

14 posted on 12/04/2007 11:30:14 PM PST by reg45
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16 posted on 12/04/2007 11:40:39 PM PST by dragnet2
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Some of the suspects are extremely violent.

Well yeah, that kind of goes along with this violent, illegal invasion of our country.

18 posted on 12/04/2007 11:52:45 PM PST by dragnet2
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detectives at the Department of Public Safety had their eye on Diego Ortiz and Miguel Dejesus

Uh huh.

19 posted on 12/04/2007 11:57:14 PM PST by dragnet2
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As the situation spirals out of control with Mexico, we are going to see more and more people compelled to become the law for lack of any real enforcement on the matter. We are seeing many people being to understand the implications of the United States abandoning it's Southern border and leaving US citizens to the "tender mercies" of third world banditos and drug lords.

The American people do understand: The United States and local governing entities have failed miserably to enforce the law and protect it's citizens. There is a vacuum here and citizens are required the take up the slack to protect their families, friends and neighbors. IF the law was regularly being enforced along with proper control of the borders, it wouldn't be necessary.

However, since all governing entities have basically abandoned even the slightest effort to enforce and protect, and the citizens are being faced with what amounts to an invasion, under those circumstances they have free reign on how they protect themselves from enemy invaders. In addition, any laws that restrict or define terms of such defense and protection are no longer applicable, as there is no controlling legal authority.

Police showing up to draw a chalk outline of a body isn't protection, law enforcement nor border control. Anyone who implies that it is is siding with the enemy.

21 posted on 12/05/2007 1:36:48 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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As US identification papers go, Puerto Rico birth certificates have been a joke for 30 years—ever since I was employed by a police department. (Sheriff’s Office, really). :-(


22 posted on 12/05/2007 3:14:14 AM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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So are all the people who called us racists and anti-hispanic on the last thread for suggesting these two were illegals going to stop by this thread to apologize?


23 posted on 12/05/2007 3:24:34 AM PST by Republican Landslide (Hillary will fall ill and require hospitalization before Dec 15 through Super Tuesday)
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This is the same incident that had the Quniell X guy protesting with his rent a mob isn’t it? That video was amazing. Of what interest are two illegal burglars to that race baiting prison muslim guy? I had assumed the burglars to be black when I saw the “protest” and its community response.


24 posted on 12/05/2007 4:00:00 AM PST by doodad
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I’m glad that this didn’t happen in New York, Massachusetts or some other anti-gun state. The hero of this story, and he is a hero, would be sitting in prison for a long time as a scapegoat for failed liberal policies.


30 posted on 12/05/2007 4:29:55 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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If they were illegals, then Mr. Horn is probably in even more trouble.
Can’t have folks goin’ around shootin’ foreign invaders. Might make ‘em mad.
‘Course, live or dead, they can still vote Democrat.


35 posted on 12/05/2007 4:48:44 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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So one old man did more than ATF, ICE, and DPS?

Now that is pure American!


37 posted on 12/05/2007 4:55:09 AM PST by roses of sharon
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where to begin ???

Department of Public Safety had their eye on Diego Ortiz and Miguel Dejesus.

evidentely their 'lazy' eye

a Pasadena man who thought they were WITNESSED THE PERPS burglarizing his neighbor’s home

ATF, ICE and DPS have reportedly formed a task force to bring the crime wave to an end.

Looks like Mr Horn didnt need no stinkin task force, just a shotgun and a little initiative.

Now while these alphabet task forces are keep their eyes on these scumbags buddies, will they sit around and watch Mr horns house get burned down? Im positive that he has been removed of his shotgun [hopefully has back ups] but fortunately it seems he does have a few [hundred] motivated Texans defending alongside side at least for now...

40 posted on 12/05/2007 5:47:30 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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