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As a general rule, I don’t like seeing someone killed over property. In this instance it’s beginning to look like foreign nationals have been preying on U.S. Citizens because our laws protect them. What’s the worst that could happen? They spend a few years in jail after making thier bosses huge sums of money. Well, I was raised to believe that crime doesn’t pay. And perhaps it’s time to take the gloves off and let criminals know that we’re note screwing around with them any longer.

If you want to risk your life trying to steal other people’s property, then you’ve have made the decision. If you wind up dead, it was your choice.

I have a rule of thumb when it comes to people shot during home invasion robberies or simple burglaries. If the criminal had stayed away, they would not have faced a violent outcome. The home owner or his neighbors didn’t go looking for someone to kill. The criminals chose to invade other peoples property to steal the fruits of their labor, and as part of that decision, they accepted that they would have to pay a stiff penalty if caught. Well, these two did pay.

If you have criminal leanings, go ahead and try to rip people off. Just be aware that you may not live to see the next day. After making that decison, I think the criminal is fair game. Shoot the MoFos and don’t look back.

Get the pooper scooper out and dispose of the human waste. It’s been open season on law abiding citizens for decades. It’s time that came to an end.

I will say that folks should be very careful about who they gun down. If a well meaning person ends the life of an innocent, they should face a hell of a sentence for having done so.

“I don’t like seeing someone killed over property.”

Not many people do, but, I have very few high value items, my cameras are about it, for me. On my fixed retirement income, each of them represents many months of scrimping and saving. They aren’t insured, except by Smith & Wesson.
Try to burglarize my home and I will damn sure shoot you.
People who do things like this have no sympathy, and no respect, for anyone else, and they get none from me.

That is the value they put on their own lives. They risked their life for some used goods, sold cheap. Men that value living, so low, and that enter a Texas home, to steal, are very dangerous. This wasn’t a teenage mother stealing to eat and feed her kids. These were professional losers. Home invaders. We may well find that they have raped and murdered people that they discovered in those peoples homes. They made a trade, and lost.

. It’s been open season on law abiding citizens for decades

All too true, and this is aided and abetted by politicians and bureaucrats who insist on disarming the the citizens. Luckily this happened in Texas. Can you imagine what would have happened to Mr. Horn if this had happened in MD, NY, or MA? He'd be facing serious jail time. Jorje Bush, Hilary, Obama, Rootie, Romney and McCain are all deeply saddened that Mr. Horn killed these poor hard working undocumented workers who were just in the USA to make a living.

“As a general rule, I don’t like seeing someone killed over property.”

I’ve heard that sentiment many times. I remember it being debated in law school. It’s a relatively recent view in the law, and there are many problems with it, as I see it. Some of them you have ably pointed out.

I keep thinking of what Robert Bork said: “You can’t create new rights, you can just shift existing rights around,” or words to that effect.

As soon as you say that a homeowner has no right to use deadly force to protect his property, you are also saying that a burglar or a robber has a right to steal without the risk of someone using deadly force against him. That’s just wrong. And it’s lead to some horrendous civil suits by robbers against persons protecting their property.

Once a person makes the decision to invade someone else’s castle, he should be held to have abandoned all rights, in my opinion.

“As a general rule, I don’t like seeing someone killed over property.”

Other than Federal lands, public highways, infrastructure, etc., the citizens own this country, period.

If we don't defend our properties, (even being killed in the process), it's up for grabs by thieves or illegal invaders or a foreign army. At this point, if we are being told that, it ain't worth it to get killed over property; Floridians might as well concede Florida to an invading Castro's army without firing a shot. (just an example :-) )

Frankly, I don't see any difference. Am I legally on the right track, Lady Lawyer?

As a general rule, I don’t like seeing someone killed over property

That's because you don't really understand what a persons private property represents.

My property is a piece of my life. I worked hard for it. Every single thing I purchase cost time out of my life that I can never get back. Stealing something of mine is stealing a piece of my life that simply cannot be replaced.

For instance, let us say that I have a 50 inch plasma TV that cost $4,000.00. The number of hours that I worked to pay for that item can never be 'put back' into my life.

Therefore thieves aren't just stealing 'stuff', they stealing hours, days, weeks, or even months of my life.

And that is most certainly worth killing them over.

I will say that folks should be very careful about who they gun down. If a well meaning person ends the life of an innocent, they should face a hell of a sentence for having done so.

No that has always been one of the big cons..

If a well meaning citizen reasonably believes a crime is taking place and becomes involved resulting in the loss of innocent life.

They should no more face any criminal sanction than a Police Officer acting reasonably involved in the same situation..

It will be an accident and a tragedy but no crime. It should not be used by prosecutors (as it is now) to deter citizens from acting prudently and actively in defense of themselves their neighbors and communities.

One law for all or no law at all.