Posted on 12/02/2007 5:31:29 AM PST by fweingart
The Bible is against abortion. Hillary is for killing womb babies.
The Bible is against active homosexuality. Hillary endorses sodomy.
The Bible is against other gods than God. Hillary is polytheistic in that any deity is fine for her.
Yet Hillary quotes then from the Bible in a sanctuary. So what’s new?
Per AP, “Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton used an appearance at one of the nation’s largest evangelical churches Thursday to sketch a broad agenda to take on disease around the globe, calling it ‘the right thing to do.’
“The centerpiece of a speech laced with Biblical references and reflections on her own faith was a call to spend billions of dollars to combat HIV/AIDS and other infectious diseases at home and abroad. She said she would try to stamp out malaria deaths in Africa within eight years.”
Hillary sounds like Rudy Giuliani when it comes to using Jesus for her own political opportunism. No problem with that. It’s the biblical jargon that is quick to their tongues because they have honed that part of their hypocrisy.
Why did Pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback Church, Orange County, California, invite Hillary on to his agenda? These so-called evangelical leaders who hug Hillary and Barack Obama are traitors to the traditional biblical Christianity.
Hillary and Obama have plenty of secular venues; they don’t need a sanctuary, pulpit and congregation under the label “evangelical” to provide them with further shelter. Yet this compromising the faith goes on in some so-called evangelical circles. It is disgusting.
“Clinton was alone among leading candidates to fly to coastal California to appear at Saddleback Church in Orange County, where pastor and best-selling author Rick Warren convenes a conference each year to highlight the global threat posed by HIV/AIDS.”
The gist of this article is not against raising funds to combat a deadly disease. It is condoning politicos who grab hold of the Bible to support their personas while all the time breathing ethics that are anti-Scripture.
“Many Christian conservatives dread the possibility of another Clinton White House, a point of agreement in a year when prominent leaders in the movement have divided their loyalties among GOP contenders.
“There was a sprinkle of criticism from conservatives in response to Clinton’s appearance at the church, but it was muted compared to last year when more than a dozen conservative leaders signed a letter urging Warren to rescind an invitation to Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., who supports abortion rights. The church defended his appearance.
“Warren is theologically and socially conservative, but he is known for avoiding the scrum of partisan politics. The author of ‘The Purpose-Driven Life’ has devoted much of his time in recent years mobilizing evangelicals to fight AIDS in Africa.
“The speech gave Clinton a chance to appear on stage with the popular pastor — who greeted her with a hug — as well as talk at length about her own faith.”
Hug her?
As far as I can reason Warren, he too is an outright opportunist. He is bloated over the sales of his book. Therefore, his egocentricity flies out for more more more. Yet he is exposing his use of Jesus and Bible for his own purse and rising conceit level.
Compromising the biblical lifestyle and moral base does not set well with God. It also does not go over with those totally surrendered to a separation from the worldly unto the holiness of God.
“’I’ve been raised to understand the power and purpose of prayer,’ she (Hillary) said at one point.”
Hillary once again lies.
Her prayers don’t go any further than her mouth for her heart is not in the right place. Jesus does not reside in a heart that endorses slaying the unborn and campaigning for the same-gender practices that go on in the practicing homosexual playtime.
I loved your post!
Wanted to add: God spoke Isaiah and Jeremiah to be prophets while they were yet in the womb. Isa. 49:1, 5; Jer. 1:4-5.
God would not call, name and ordain a meaningless blob of tissue. The unborn child is a life having a relationship with God WHILE IN THE WOMB.
One would think Saddleback could lose their 501c3 status if the IRS took notice (fat chance... they only take notice of conservatives who breach the rules).
I was living in FL in '92 when Bill&Hill were running the first time. She came to a black church in St. Pete on a Sunday and held a big time political rally in the sanctuary complete with electioneering speeches and all the usual hoopla. IIRC it went on for several hours, and AFAIK there was no protest from the local Pubs and no investigation by the FEC. The Clintons are apparently above the laws that the rest of us must obey.
“The Clintons are apparently above the laws that the rest of us must obey.”
Nah. The words are simply interpreted differently for them. God’s laws or man’s. It’s a bit tricky, I know, but they have the ability to adjust them exactly so that they apply directly to them in one sense, and to you and I in another.
another translation puts it a little more clearly:
Exodus 21
22 “If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury
Seems clear to me that we’re not talking about an abortion but a premature delivery without death.
The Exodus passage you quoted concerns an accidental miscarriage, not a deliberate abortion. Our current criminal laws treat someone who causes the death of an innocent person by accident much differently than someone who intentionally commits a murder.
Bible passages such as one of David's psalms make it quite clear that a baby in the womb is a living human being, and the deliberate killing of an innocent human being was murder in God's eyes in biblical times and is murder in God's eye's today no matter what society and man-made laws say about it. The only morally permissible justification for aborting a living but unborn baby is if the abortion is absolutely necessary to save the mother's life, and that is a rare occurrence according to testimony given before Congress by medical doctors.
Absolutely!
All the pro-abortionists are going to have an unpleasant time in the hereafter.
I don't know where 'out here' is, but I do know what down there refers to.
I've defended my words and must insist that the Biblical reference clearly defines the deliberate murder of an unborn as murder.
But then you knew that all along.
Oh, you mean from some who CLAIM to have been in the Craft.
Even so, if they are former members and they are breaking their obligations to the Craft, it means that they lied under oath.
Furthermore, if you don’t have any first hand knowledge, but are running around spouting some hearsay conspiracy garbage using information from a known liar...then keep on looking silly. I’m sure others will be entertained.
As for me, I’m done. Have a nice life.
So Mote It Be.
I forget the exact dates, but several months before my daughter was actually born, I was able to actually listen to her heartbeat while we were at a GYN appointment.
It was an amazing experience for me. I shall never forget it, and I still recall it vividly.
If anyone were to extinguish that heartbeat, at that stage of life, then it would be in my opinion a murder.
OK, have it your way. Your position implies the masons are so incompetent that they are overwhelmed by the wife of a former President who couldn’t pull her own butt out of a bag if her life depended on it. Throughout all of American polity, no Mason or group thereof is capable since the late 60’s of competing with the likes of Hillary Clinton.
(IMHO, the former position makes a lot more sense, but feel free to corner yourself and your brethren into a reputation of incompetence.)
BTW, one facet of masonry which I find incredibly absurd is that for all the appeal to the occult and spiritism, it doesn’t dawn on them that those who simply have faith alone in Christ alone, have been indwelt by all three persons of the Godhead. Where their occultic conspiracies demand secrecy, God remains faithful to either let them play their hands out as an eternal memorial of their infidelity to Him, and/or lets His believers see right through their secrecy, no matter how hidden they seek to make their plans.
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