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Gays and rape centre at odds over age of consent[UK]
The Observer ^ | 25 Nov 2007 | Henry McDonald

Posted on 11/27/2007 4:59:11 PM PST by BGHater

Making sex legal at 16 in line with rest of Britain 'would hurt the vulnerable'

Gay rights campaigners have clashed with Belfast's Rape Crisis Centre over plans to lower the age of sexual consent to 16. The British government has published proposals to bring Northern Ireland's legal process, under which it is illegal for 16-year-olds to have sex, into line with the rest of the UK.

The centre has joined a loose alliance with the Catholic church, evangelical Protestant churches and Ian Paisley's Democratic Unionist Party to oppose the proposed change from 17 to 16. Ranged against them are organisations representing the gay community.

Eileen Calder, director of the centre, defended its decision to resist changes to the sexual offences law. 'On many issues we have been on the opposite side of the DUP and the Catholic church, in areas like abortion, where the centre is pro-choice. But on other issues, such as pornography, we have worked with the churches in campaigning against sexploitation,' she said.

'Our concern is to protect vulnerable young men and women from older sexual predators. The 17 age limit has never been used to prosecute, say, a man of 16 who gets his 15-year-old girlfriend pregnant. What we are concerned about is men in their 20s, 30s, 40s and older preying on young people. And that applies to the gay community as well as the heterosexual community.'

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: consent; gays; heterosexualagenda; homosexualagenda; rape; uk

1 posted on 11/27/2007 4:59:13 PM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

I wonder what prince thinks about this.


2 posted on 11/27/2007 5:03:58 PM PST by bigjackattack
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To: BGHater

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

NAMBLA to the rescue. (Well, wouldn’t doubt it, fellow travelers and all, even if it is Britain) It’s only a matter of time before these groups demand all age limits be done away with.

There’s a sickness in the land.


3 posted on 11/27/2007 5:05:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: BGHater

The reason that I despise Elton John is that he was the headliner at an event, some number of years back, the purpose of which was to raise money to lobby for lowering the age of consent. I think it is a safe bet to assume that the perverts will keep working at this until there is no legal age limit for consent.


4 posted on 11/27/2007 5:25:39 PM PST by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: BGHater
What we are concerned about is men in their 20s, 30s, 40s and older preying on young people>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Then raise the age of consent to 18 and enforce it.

If the age of consent is 16, then the age of consent is 16.

That means if a 16 year old consents to have sex witha 90 year old, then thats just the way the law is.

Liberals are so weird. They want a low age of consent of 16 but not for people who are 20 with people who are 16?

So between ages of 16 and 19 consensual sex is OK.

But we don't want them exploited by those who are experienced with sex?

I don't get the logic here on what they consider to be exploitation.

What is exploitation?

Why not make exploitation the crime?

Then I suppose they all would be in jail.

5 posted on 11/27/2007 5:54:37 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: BGHater

Coming from the same segment of the population who want to be able to mentor your sons in the Boy Scouts.


6 posted on 11/27/2007 6:00:53 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: BGHater

Tony Blair was personally responsible for pushing through the law lowering the homosexual age of consent against strong parliamentary resistance.

Not one of his better acts.


7 posted on 11/27/2007 6:01:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Candor7

“Then raise the age of consent to 18 and enforce it.”

Yes, but only for heterosexual sex when the couple is legally married. Otherwise make the age of consent 21 for heterosexual sex.

Are far as homosexual sex, there should be no age of consent because it should be illegal at any age.


8 posted on 11/27/2007 6:02:25 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: BGHater

If you ban sex with underaged boys, a substantial portion of the UK gay community will be forced into celebacy. Now, if we can only force the rest of them into celebacy we could get rid of STDs.


9 posted on 11/27/2007 6:26:54 PM PST by bpjam (Harry Reid doesn't even have 32% of my approval)
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To: BGHater
"What we are concerned about is men in their 20s, 30s, 40s and older preying on young people.

Of course. Because women in their 20s, 30s, 40s and older never prey on young people.

(Unless of course, they're coyote ugly:-)

10 posted on 11/27/2007 6:31:06 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Sola Veritas
Yes, but only for heterosexual sex when the couple is legally married. Otherwise make the age of consent 21 for heterosexual sex. ... Are far as homosexual sex, there should be no age of consent because it should be illegal at any age.

LOL. Good luck with that.

11 posted on 11/27/2007 6:40:21 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

“LOL. Good luck with that.”

Indeed, but one can always hope for a better and sensible world.


12 posted on 11/27/2007 6:45:55 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Bigg Red
I think it is a safe bet to assume that the perverts will keep working at this until there is no legal age limit for consent.

I suspect you're misconstruing the efforts of a few years ago to bring England's homosexual age of consent, then 18, in line with that of heterosexuals, then 16. It question of equality under law. As reflected in this story, it's now 16 for age of consent regardless of the partner's sexes.

A quick look suggests you state of Maryland appears to have an age of consent of 16 with no apparently separate restriction on homosexuals.

13 posted on 11/27/2007 8:35:30 PM PST by newzjunkey (“Market forces” demanded serfs and market forces got them. - Kolokotronis)
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To: newzjunkey

A quick look suggests you state of Maryland appears to have an age of consent of 16 with no apparently separate restriction on homosexuals.

&&&
My state, a cesspool of rule by Rats, is hardly the standard I would like to see for the rest of the civilized world.

The legal angle you point out may well be accurate in terms of law, but I stand by my assessment of the plans of the perverts — of both the homosexual and the heterosexual varieties.


14 posted on 11/28/2007 12:27:18 PM PST by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Or teachers.


15 posted on 11/28/2007 12:28:59 PM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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